> is "no figuring out the toolchain, deployment, integration with third parties, etc".
Yep and programmers are terrible at delivering that: I do believe a lot of people like setting up their environments, running updates and fixing their code while nothing in the business logic was changed. I find it by far the most annoying part of modern programming; I want to build a product that adds to the bottomline; not figure out whatever I need to set up to get that done. After the set up, we do not need drag and drop or whatever; just code is fine, but can we just please skip any and all of the setup by default (you can change it if you require ofcourse!), while it being ready and secure for production, by default? That is what these no code tools do well: I can just start making datamodels, business logic and connections instead of worrying what crucial npm updates will break my code today.
Edit: Also when I run the npm i module no code equivalent (pressing add plugin/module or something), it will immediately work; no 90 page setup document of ‘integrating’ things in my application. Sure the flexibility!!! But why are we (me included) so incredibly bad a sane and ‘just works after install’ defaults? I still think, as said above, that people must like this busywork, otherwise you would expect more complaining?
I do know many freelancers (paid per hr) and many people under contract indeed like that work: it is a nice distraction from thinking about logic and it takes time (a lot of time sometimes), but I cannot believe people really would prefer it over taking a walk outside instead?
Yep and programmers are terrible at delivering that: I do believe a lot of people like setting up their environments, running updates and fixing their code while nothing in the business logic was changed. I find it by far the most annoying part of modern programming; I want to build a product that adds to the bottomline; not figure out whatever I need to set up to get that done. After the set up, we do not need drag and drop or whatever; just code is fine, but can we just please skip any and all of the setup by default (you can change it if you require ofcourse!), while it being ready and secure for production, by default? That is what these no code tools do well: I can just start making datamodels, business logic and connections instead of worrying what crucial npm updates will break my code today.
Edit: Also when I run the npm i module no code equivalent (pressing add plugin/module or something), it will immediately work; no 90 page setup document of ‘integrating’ things in my application. Sure the flexibility!!! But why are we (me included) so incredibly bad a sane and ‘just works after install’ defaults? I still think, as said above, that people must like this busywork, otherwise you would expect more complaining?
I do know many freelancers (paid per hr) and many people under contract indeed like that work: it is a nice distraction from thinking about logic and it takes time (a lot of time sometimes), but I cannot believe people really would prefer it over taking a walk outside instead?