Didn't even realize there was SMS built into Signal (apart from the "Invite via SMS" screen once in a while).

> in Germany where nobody seems to use SMS anymore.

That's not true at all. I assume that besides Signal you use WhatsApp, though?

I haven't met a single person using SMS for so long that I can't even remember the phone I had last time I used it. I do work with a lot different contractors.

And yes, WhatsApp is prevalent here.

You're saying this as if it were preferable to give all your contacts and metadata to WhatsApp/Facebook.

Where am I supposed to have done that? It's not even the topic here.

I merely describe the current status in Germany.

Austrians don't care too.

I can't understand who and why anyone cares about SMS these day, besides receiving government emergency notifications.

Phone-based 2FA hasn't got to Austria yet?

Most sites and platforms use HOTP/TOTP (RFC 4226/RFC 6238) for 2FA, use an authenticator app of your choice.

Regardless of that, you can still always receive SMS for the 3 outdated services that still use it.

Interesting. What do they do with the grandpa/grandma population who have neither an idea nor the skills for "RFC 4226/RFC 6238"?

(As my friend used to ironically say: "Is your grandma so senile that she can't type `configure; make; make install`?")

Phone-based 2FA isn't really the problem here no?

I don't even open the SMS program if I get a code. I type it from the notification area. I certainly don't have to answer to it.

Not via SMS, anymore