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Not a chance. Moving from an Intel MacBook Pro to an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro was absolutely revolutionary for me and my very pedestrian ‘interpreted language in Docker web developer’ workloads.

I’d seriously consider not taking a job if they were still on Intel MacBooks. I appreciate that an arch switch isn’t a piece of cake for many many workloads, and it isn’t just a sign of employers cheaping out. But for me it’s just been such a significant improvement.


Different people have different needs. I certainly need a MacBook Pro for my work, but I use next to no storage. I’ve never purchase beyond the minimum storage for an Apple computer. I did however up the processor on my current MacBook Pro.

Minimum 8GB RAM is more universally egregious but I’m not going to sit here and justify my own exception whilst discounting the possibility that 8GB works for others.


The cost for adding an extra 8GB would be insignificant for Apple, though. The only reason they don’t is to upsell higher tier models


It would make them less money. /thread

To be fair– While 8GB is annoying– I've bought the M1 MacBook Air when it came out and it's remarkably resilient. I've only had it freeze a few times due to too little RAM.

I've also been using many different programs. I just have to be a tad mindful about closing tabs (especially Google tabs) and programs.


We all know what is meant by “low/mid-tier”. This is pointless pedantry. Next someone is going to come by with the throwaway comment complaint about how OpenAI isn’t “open”.


It’s a step in a setup wizard. Whilst it’s explicitly asked, and far from dark pattern territory, it’s designed in such a way that I wouldn’t be surprised by a 95% opt-in rate.


I would be VERY surprised.

To someone with experience in that area of UX, a 95% opt-IN rate is ridiculously high.

A 95% consent-rate would already be hard to achieve as opt-OUT.

For opt-in a 95% rate would require both attention AND consent from 95% of the audience at this stage in the setup wizard.

I highly doubt that it can achieve 95% attention, let alone 95% consent.


But it's not quite opt in our opt out in this case. The user is required to opt for something. Apple literally has 100% attention, because otherwise the user can't move past the screen.


I was actually more genuinely interested to learn about the "similar defaults" mentioned in the OP, the 95% comment was just a side-note to a huge overestimation on how easy consent is achieved.

> But it's not quite opt in our opt out in this case. The user is required to opt for something. Apple literally has 100% attention, because otherwise the user can't move past the screen.

Thing is, you don't even have 100% of the users' attention in this case. The user wants to use the device, you're just standing in the way.

The scenario is this: You force the user to take a decision between option A and B. Regardless of his decision he will achieve his immediately desired outcome (move to the next screen / use the device).

Getting 95% to vote for 'A' would require some quite aggressive dark pattern, to the point that option 'B' would need to be almost invisible and actively discouraged.

Even if the UI would be a pre-checked check-box and the user would just have to select "Next" to Continue (=opt-out), your rate of consent would not be 95%. As mentioned, everything beyond 50% is already outstanding

Or, let's rephrase: If Apple would have 95% opt-in rate, they wouldn't bother chasing for consent again on every SW-update


Another way of putting it: an option for a 100$ itunes gift card no strings attached, probably wouldn't hit 95%


I do agree it's probably not 95%. But 60% wouldn't surprise me.


Expect something in the ballpark of 20-25%, and that already assumes that Apple's above-average brand-reputation translates into above-average consent on data sharing with them.


To add to this, it's not like a mailing list, either. Marketing opt-in is lower because it's annoying. A lot of people don't want emails.

Anonymized stats from your machine? Most normal people (who don't use computers like we do) do not care and just click the most affirmative option so that they can move forward.


This is deeply misguided opinion aboit 'nornal' people. To nornal people 'Anonymous' is a lie.

My dad can't tell apart Windows and Linux, but he makes sure to uncheck any kind of data collection, tracking, and clicks 'reject all' on every cookie warning


Yeah, I don't think allowing telemetry etc is really a matter of technical literacy, and is more a matter of social trust. High-trusting people will see no problem, low-trusting people will say "no way!". I'd imagine this varies widely but with definite trends based on social/economic class.


> To nornal people 'Anonymous' is a lie.

Normal people don't even give a second of thought to this. My partner knows the difference between windows and Mac, and is perfectly content to browse the internet without an ad blocker and to read in between all the cookie dialogs. The only time she clicks on one is when it's required to proceed, and she'll click whichever one is the most obvious button.


I think that was kind of the OP point. "Pro" users are significantly more likely to be opt-out in this scenario, unless they are not Pro users but just want the Pro machine for conspicuous consumption, making a much more dramatic swing in the usage data that is collected.


The word Pro in the product name really doesn't separate consumers as well as you might think.

Every college kid has a Mac Book Pro, yet they are by definition not Pros


It’s more like 15% opt in. I know because it controls dev access to analytics on their apps.


Well, when your P is still quite E, I guess it’s a different equation :).


Hyperbole like this is necessary for people to justify the extreme negative emotions they feel about a computer they’ll never buy having specifications that they disapprove of.


I think you mean, convince politicians to allow for the ridiculous tax-excluded display pricing that’s prolific in the US.


Why is it ridiculous to allow for tax-excluded display of pricing? You couldn't run a TV or newspaper ad with tax-included pricing in the US since there are so many different taxing jurisdictions here (more than 13,000, as of early 2023).

Perhaps what's ridiculous is that we have so many different taxing jurisdictions.


Well the average VAT in Europe is about twice as high if not more than the average sales tax in the US.

So I’d rather have to do some basic math but save 10% (of course different tax rates only partially explain the price difference, it still is significantly more expensive in Europe without VAT)


> ridiculous tax-excluded display pricing

Why is that ridiculous? I don't pay sales tax, what else would you have them advertise?


I think this is brilliant: let the people know how much of the price actually goes to the company, and how much to the government. Helps people make an informed decision on who's to blame for high prices of everything.


lol. Let’s not throw Latin / Asian culture under the bus when the implicit alternative being posed is American culture. Pot meet kettle.

Remember what old mate says to Ryan Gosling in the Barbie movie? “We’re just better at hiding it.”


The fact that some culture becomes better at hiding it usually means that it's less accepted by the society, hence hiding it is more important.


Alternatively, they make their behaviour legally acceptable through legislation changes.


This, nepotism is rife in private American companies of all kinds from my own experiences and others.

O God, there's at least one company, I personally have experience with that not only is a nepotistic hellhole, but is actively defrauding the government and a few big names. The result of spoiled brats getting control of a very niche private hardware engineering company after their father died.


What kind of hardware engineering are they into?


That sounds like a startup opportunity.


Sounds like a whistleblower opportunity. The government pays big bucks when you bring major fraud to their attention.


While waiting for those life changing $$$, are whistleblowers in America generally treated well and their identify kept anonymous?


Yes. There are statutory protections for whistleblowers, as well: https://www.sec.gov/whistleblower/retaliation


I guess the real question is if they're generally effective?

For comparison, Australia theoretically has protections for whistleblowers. But it's unfortunately common for whistleblowers in practice to get royally shafted, have their life destroyed, (etc). :(

* https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-27/richard-boyle-case-go...

* https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-13/trial-date-for-afghan...


Latin / Asian CORRUPTION ^* culture

It's not difficult to find tons of cases...

^* "Corruption continues to fester, aided by scandals surrounding the COVID-19 response, and is fueling popular outrage. In Peru, for instance, ministers received preferential treatment for vaccines, and in Argentina, government officials set up “VIP immunization clinics” for family and friends."

"Beyond these instances of favoritism and nepotism, the crisis has resulted in the further weakening of judicial independence and the rule of law. In Guatemala, President Alejandro Giammattei has presided over dramatic steps against judicial oversight in recent months, including the sacking of the country’s top anti-corruption prosecutor. These maneuvers—coupled with underperforming economies—have further dented public support for elected officials and trust in government."[1]

^* [1] https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/democr...


These aren’t transactional. An email isn’t transactional just because the sender has a relationship with the recipient.


I think they mostly are -- they're all about reminders for upcoming appointments and vehicle checks (the dealership), confirmation of bill payment and notices of rate rises and holiday hours (the gym), and confirmations of tee time reservations or payments or something or other with the golf course.


What definition of transaction relates to a notice about holiday hours?


What's your point?

I'm not sending these.


What do you mean? There’s a huge difference between “Product Spotlight” and “Best Deals” /s


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