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This is a good point, its because of a mix of gut bacteria and the genetic composition of individuals - but the ultra good ones like that example are few and far between


Let me PUT you on the right PATH


We all know what happened when we played God with the birth control pill. Lets see what happens now.


"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: we unbanned you because you promised you wouldn't do this kind of thing, and your account seems to have reverted to the earlier pattern. I'm not just talking about the current comment—I mean the pattern of using HN primarily to comment on political/national/religious/ideological topics. If you would please fix this so we don't have to ban you again, that would be good.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35505325



Of course it's not fine.

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im happy to stop posting about this topic, but literally every post on this site is somewhat political.


People say that if 16 year olds can work, pay tax, and join the army, they should be allowed to vote, but that argument doesn’t really hold up.

First off, the UK has one of the most generous tax free allowances in the world, you don’t pay tax on anything under £12,570. Most 16 year olds working part time or on low wages aren’t paying any tax at all, so the whole “no taxation without representation” thing doesn’t really apply here.

And let’s be honest, most 16 year olds aren’t working anyway. They’re still in school or college, not out earning or dealing with adult responsibilities.

Some people say teens are too immature to vote. Personally, I think it’s more about naivety. At 16, you’re still figuring out who you are, let alone understanding politics or economics. If someone like KSI ran for office, half of them would probably vote him in as Chancellor just for the memes.

You learn a lot of tough lessons on the way to adulthood. At 16, you’ve got zero life experience, no bills, no mortgage, no kids, and probably no full time job. So when it comes to voting, they’re more likely to be swayed by TikTok trends or what their mates think, rather than actual policies or ideology.

And let’s be real, Labour knows this. Just look at the voting intention by age

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1379439/uk-election-poll...

However it will back fire because many that age will split the vote to Greens, Lib Dems and maybe even Corbynites.

Next question that courts might ask in cases are, if a 16 year old criminal gets away with more as they are counted as a juvenile, but is considered old enough to choose the lawmakers, does the same adult laws now apply to them? If they are not perceived as mature enough to be considered as an adult criminal, then why is it different for voting?


I can imagine big american pharma pushing this - no doubt lead might have leaked in but they would not want something natural to pip their profits


Green revolution wrecked Punjab in India. Pesticides, fertiliser and chemicals just so the west could sell these products to them, the result was more food and crop generated just to feed animal livestock rather than people.


I know we don't like Tesla at the moment, but lets not exaggerate, Tesla bought 250kw chargers and thats innovation at the time and BYD is still behind in terms of car quality compared to Teslas, BYD pricing is almost 40% cheaper - theres a reason, quality and service.


Tesla has garbage fit, finish and build. They are run by a cheap-out scammer who puts more energy into social media than his business endeavors.

250kw in 2020 vs 1000kw (4x) in 2025. When is Tesla coming out with a 1MW charger?

Sell your stock if you're still making that mistake.


BYD is moving so quickly - the ones I’ve seen recently in NZ are surprisingly innovative, superb quality. Obviously not all markets are getting all vehicles, and the best are yet to leave China. Check out the EV Shark and Denza D9.


Im NZ too. BYD Tang L is pretty impressive technically (coming soon).

I almost want even larger, more powerful vehicle than my Model Y. But can’t imagine dealing with its software and uncertain future. Also I’d rather support Musk than Chinese.

I drove Atto3, which is older vehicle now. UX is nowhere close to Tesla, but I’m keen to try newer ones.


> Also I’d rather support Musk than Chinese.

There are other EV makers out there, you know.


Hyundai/Kia are overpriced here and had some major failures so they can't be trusted (tho I do like Kia EV9 a little bit). Germans are overpriced by solid 2-3x. Japanese EVs are a total joke. Am I missing out someone?


The french? The italians? The other american ev makers like Ford, Rivian, Chevy and so on?


Neither French nor Italians have any serious EVs that I know of.

Ford had some good clearance discounts on Mach-E (same with Polestar) here, made it a reasonable deal.

Rivian seems expensive in US to start with, in NZ it's waaaay past most peoples buying power.

Dunno if Chevy is available here at all.


Just curious, what exactly is worse in BYD cars comparing with tesla? (Comparing similar price range, like top to top model)

Some of Tesla vehicles are as innovative as ridiculous and illegal(in many countries).


I’ve spent some time in a Juniper Model Y and BYD Sealion 7.

The most notable areas where BYDs are still not competitive with Tesla are the interior (fit and finish is worse, the styling is unrefined and busy), the software (a buggy lightly skinned version of android), the suspension (BYD feels floaty whereas the Model Y feels grounded and responsive), and parts availability. If something goes wrong with BYDs in Australia, you can be without a car for months while waiting for parts to slowly steam across the ocean.

The BYD is cheaper, but only by about 10%, which is not enough in my view to offset the overall feeling of still being a work in progress.

That said, I really hate the onscreen gear selector in the Model Y. I’m fine with most controls being onscreen but I want a physical control for gear slection.


And yet, Tesla is missing basic features like HUD.


It's odd to think that Musk could have coasted doing a bit of innovation here and there and would have cemented himself as a great figure. Tesla really had a good stream of bold innovative moves along it's early path.


And instead of coasting for a year or two he apparently crashed and burned on a ketamine fueled binge.


He is truly a common man. Let's not pretend we wouldn't do the same given the same situation /s


I don't know, Tesla's are notoriously low quality. At the end of the day these are American made cars, which is really the bottom of the barrel of vehicle quality.


Serious question:

I've never been in a BYD(hard to get in Switzerland), but I've been in all the Teslas. The Tesla build quality is atrocious when compared to BMW, Mercedes or Audi. Are you saying BYD is worse than that?


The joke/reputation of entry-level BYD in PRC a few years ago is that it's QA is almost as bad as Tesla from Shanghai, which has better QA than Tesla from other gigafactories. That was from when BYD was scaling up from 500k to 3million per year. High end BYD were always fine. Tesla's poor QA for premium brand is still running meme.


It’s far better in the Seal and Sea Lion.


This never happens tho - parents dont sometimes even know how to use the tech. Its like giving a gun to a child and telling them its ok, just remember when you open the packaging to take the safety off.

...and oh yeh the safety software changes every few months so you will have to review it


I’m sorry who is who in this analogy. Because if internet/tech is the gun then the clear solution is “not giving your children guns”.

Bad modern parents just give their kids an iPad.


> Because if internet/tech is the gun then the clear solution is “not giving your children guns”.

Funnily enough, no. The clear solution is to ensure that you talk to your children about [gun|online] safety. Show them how to use the [gun|internet] safely. Make sure they know that they can ask to use your [gun|device] any time they'd like -- but only under your supervision.

Take the mystery away through education and experience, and like anything else [guns|the internet] becomes just another part of adult life. Just one more thing that can be dangerous if used incorrectly.


> Make sure they know that they can ask to use your [gun|device] any time they'd like -- but only under your supervision.

You could do that, but there's no particular need for it. "No guns until you're 16" works fine. You don't need to "take the mystery away".

You need to use the internet a lot before you become an adult, you need to use a gun never before you become an adult. You need a lot of practice to build up internet safety skills, you need barely any practice to build up gun safety skills.

Go ahead and have a basic gun safety talk, that's a good idea, but that's all you need.


> "No guns until you're 16" works fine. You don't need to "take the mystery away".

This is what leads to stories about kids who make their way into their parents’ locked storage and hurt themselves or others.

“The mystery” is what leads kids to investigate things on their own. Let them know they can just ask. If they do ask, explain what you’re doing as you clear it. Strictly enforce the four rules. Let them disassemble it, or do it for them if necessary.

It’s just a tool. No less useful than a drill or saw, and no more or less dangerous than the car or can of gasoline in the garage.


> This is what leads to stories about kids who make their way into their parents’ locked storage and hurt themselves or others.

> “The mystery” is what leads kids to investigate things on their own.

Do you have evidence that learning gun safety without use doesn't do enough here?

I'm not convinced there's all that much mystery. Even if talk doesn't do enough, I bet letting your kids use guns once would do more than enough to clear up mystery. If you let your kids use a gun every week (or whatever "any time" means) it's because you're a family that likes guns, not for safety reasons.


FWIW, in practice they’ve asked maybe twice, ever.

We are a family that likes guns, but that’s not what I’m advocating. Familiarity and an emphasis on safety are what I’m talking about.


Okay, I think "use guns once or twice with them" is a very reasonable idea for gun safety.

And it ends up being extremely different from internet safety. It's much much harder to teach and it's not practical to supervise the full learning process.


Yeah I just wouldn’t give them one


I gave my kids iPads.

But I also parented them.


My parents tried to parent me, but I childed them.


Ah yes the constant adversarial relationship.


Apparently the average age of mothers is 30 - these parents should understand the risks of technology having be exposed to it themselves but we don’t seem to be seeing improvement in this area like we might expect.


The problem is that they also understand the benefits of technology. It's easy to limit "screen time" in the abstract, and not too hard to keep it going through toddlerhood if you want. It's much harder to tell your 12 year old that they're not allowed to stay connected with their friends when your own friends just sent you a meme in the group chat 5 minutes ago.


A lot of us experienced the opposite problem. I had parents that restricted large parts of the Internet that probably would have been fine to access. The Internet has changed a lot. It wasn't until I took in a zoomer who grew up with unrestricted Internet access that I realized how damaging it could be.


Could you elaborate?


A mother of 30 can't compete with shareholder interest working 24/7.


  > A 30yo mother can't compete 
    (fify)
Shareholders, super computers, psychologists, and a good portion of HN users!


  > Its like giving a gun to a child and telling them its ok
Might not be the best example if you visit the American South...

I get your point and I think you're right, but I'd suggest a different analogy or lean in a bit more saying give it to a young child with no training.

The irony is The South is where these porn laws are happening...


default to parental guidance enabled.


Sounds like the road to Communism


It's a slippery slope. One day you're providing free health care to children, the next you're being rolled into a mass grave in a gulag.


Cold showers in hot weather actually makes you hotter, as your body raises its temperature when under the cold shower

Whilst a hot shower makes your body try to lower its temperature to cool off


That seems over simplistic. Surely there must be some cross-over point between environmental temperature and shower temperature, so you could take a completely neutral shower that won't affect your temperature at all?

Also, I doubt that you could get hypothermia by using close to boiling water in a shower.


There is a cross-over point, it's around your body temp, so usually between 36 and 38C. In France we have thermostatic shower mixer with labeling around this temp, with even a push button lock that can prevent you from going over 38C if you wish. Isn't this common in the US ?


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