This is Iran, so the researchers are often not great, or it's just straightup fraudulent. It's one of the epicenters of developing-world science fraud. So always worth keeping that in mind - there may not, in fact, be any facts that have to be explained.
They become aware of academic dishonesty where a student tried to publish a paper with faked data, and taking it down is disappointing posturing? What?
which becomes part of the record. Can put a banner up top. Expunging takes it out of the record, folks can't trace the history of it. Also, I didn't say 'posturing' which has a particular meanring, I said it's 'a posture'.
> if it really is laziness, and not something else, e.g. a mental health issue.
Kids optimize. When I was in high school I was fully capable of getting straight F's in a class I didn't care about and straight A's in a class I enjoyed.
Why bother learning chemistry when you could instead spend that time coding cool plugins and websites in PHP that thousands of internet strangers are using? I really did build one of the most popular phpBB plugins and knew I was gonna be a software engineer. Not that my chemistry professor cared about any of that or even understood what I'm talking about.
How is it irrelevant? Kids will always cheat their way through classes they feel are a distraction. Even the super smart Type A kids.
Hell, all humans do that. You use every resource available to get out of dealing with things that are not your priority. This means you will never be good at those things and that’s fine. You can’t be good at everything.
They will, but we were talking about the will or motivation to learn. If someone has a curious mind, and actually wants to learn, then they can definitely use LLMs to do that.
Realistically, putting them into trades sooner could almost be a good thing. Kids who don’t want to learn end up dragging down the class and distracting those who do.
But, these are kids… Hard to argue that adults should selectively deny education when it is their responsibility to do otherwise.
We don’t neglect the handicapped because it is inconvenient to provide them with assistance.
Maybe my comment was a little harsh. I do believe we should have the structure in place for people to learn from as they wish. We should show them it's available, and the benefits of it
But the lazy, uncurious person that wants to shortcut everything, that you described? They're not even trying to help themselves. Maybe the best thing to do there is to let a little time pass and for them to see the result of their actions. You can lead a horse to water..
> Maybe the best thing to do there is to let a little time pass and for them to see the result of their actions
This is most kids, myself included. I’m curious and have done well, but if I could have had essays written for me as a kid for sure I’d have tried. And I’d be off worse for it.
Kids also just want to eat sugar and play video games. As parents and a society, we both provide and force alternatives because as adults we know better.
You can lead a horse to water, sure, but you could also lead it to something filled with their worst instincts. Let’s avoid the later.
They always can. But I think it’s sometimes kind of interesting to see the creativity of trying to reconcile such an outlandish belief with the evidence.
Well as always the belief is immutable, the evidence can only serve that belief and so if it doesn't it surely isn't evidence in that confused perspective.
They just say things like this didn't happen. It doesn't take creative writing skills to just call people you disagree with liars. It's very lazy overall.
Oh, they will think up something, and gullable useful idiots will continue to believe they actually believe that stuff, whilst they rake in the money from content engagement, laughing at the idiots trying to convince them the earth isnt flat for the 9000th time
It's a bit demoralizing how many suggestions in this thread would have significant environmental effects beyond what large scale AI training already has.
I'm talking about the above proposals (albiet hypothetical) to either cover a pole of our planet in solar and other ocean based proposals--not solar in general.
It's a bit demoralizing people talk about AI training as if it were even 1/100th the environmental impact of the personal automobile or frequent airplane trips
That's a fair point. If we saw a downward trend in google search usage in the last year or two, it might support your theory.
Whether AI and search are similar enough to call them competitors, at least right now, is highly debatable. I don't know about other people, but I for one have definitely not started asking chatbots questions instead of looking for informed, human-authored content.
EDIT: Note that I mean downward trend in total, not the percentages shown by statcounter. Statcounter does have a separate chatbot page though, if you're interested in that. Still doesn't answer your totally valid question of how many people are chatting instead of searching, though. Maybe Google or ChatGPT could tell us :)
