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How do you know that? Because apple says so?

Key exchange happens through apple. App is proprietary and as far as I know the apple devices upload to the apple cloud in a way that makes apple able to read the messages by default.


Force them to implement Matrix


One more reason: signal still allows for easier discovery of other users, because it forces phone number sharing


... phone number use, lack of interoperability, keeping server source closed when it fits


> Why do I need 3 apps (Android Messages, Signal, Whatsapp) to talk to people?

Because Whatsapp and Signal are walled gardens. (Everyone knows why IM>sms)


> Whatsapp and Signal are walled gardens.

Until next year?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220701IP...


No. Secrecy will have backdoor keys, but that is not what walled garden means: it means more like people have no power over the decisions made in the garden.


That's what OP was referring to.

"... those designated as gatekeepers will have to: allow third parties to inter-operate with their own services, meaning that smaller platforms will be able to request that dominant messaging platforms enable their users to exchange messages, send voice messages or files across messaging apps. ..."


Thank you, I should have clarified that in the original comment.

(I admit that I actually edited that original comment, since the link I initially included was more speculative, talking about a law that was expected to pass, and being much more vague about when it might enter into force. The page at the updated link is more definitive, but not as narrowly focused, so I'm glad you managed to isolate the relevant section.)


You couldn't have one messenger for all contacts before, except you forced everyone to either signal or sms


Signal could SMS anyone in your regular contacts app; the fallback option in tfa is what doesn't force people. Now, it will.


I doubt your phone doesn't have a default sms app.

Anyways e2ee and sms doesn't mix well


They actually mix quite well and I had used Signal for years to do it. It's not rocket science.


Could you compare it with Sycamore with a few bullet points?

I feel like it is pretty close even though you don't see the async exposed? L


Sycamore works pretty similarly to React. See https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/xvv49w/comment/ir6pw0... for how Async UI is different from React-style frameworks.


It don't see how this works out. React uses a virtual Dom.

Sycamore:

> Write code that feels natural. Everything is built on reactive primitives without a cumbersome virtual DOM.

Yew works more similar to React


You're right. I got the two frameworks confused.

Async UI is similar to Sycamore in term of not diffing VDOM.

The API is different in that in Sycamore, you tell the framework what to render (by using sycamore::render) and the framework will handle it from there. In Async UI, you await what you want to render yourself. Async UI's API is more transparent in this way, and this brings benefits including - making async control flow (like the control flow example in the blog post) possible - making component simply async function or anything that implements IntoFuture<Output = ()>

Sycamore's reactivity is pretty painless (a little too magical for my taste, but that's probably just me), so it's something Async UI can learn from.


That someone is the one watching the ad by buying products the person sees in ads


Back in 2015, there was this "The Website Obesity Crisis" talk that claimed [0], among other things, that in fact most money in the ad industry is coming not from the ad-seeing consumers, but from VC investors. Has something changed in 7 years? Or was it never true in the first place?

[0] https://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm#fatads


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