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That's for the last version. It initially was for Windows 1.0 in 1987!

I remember this -- it was basically Smalltalk (complete with a class browser and image-based development) except they changed the syntax to make it look C-like -- like you would have calls like method(object); instead of "object method". As I recall it was never updated for Windows 95 or later and died.

Not unlike how Crystal isn't really "compiled Ruby" but rather its own language that just looks and feels similar to Ruby.

Turbo Pascal and other Borland products used to use keys based on WordStar. These days JOE (Joe's Own Editor) still uses a similar keyset.

> These days JOE (Joe's Own Editor) still uses a similar keyset.

joe is definitely among the easiest CLI/TUI editors there are.


I remember finding joe back in the 90s, having come to Linux from mainly DOS, and bring overjoyed. The little Unix I'd used up to that point (mainly Xenix and a little SCO) had me using ed, which was enough like old DOS EDLIN that I could manage. When I found myself in vi I'd just hang up the modem because I never could figure out how to get out of it. >smile<

Back in the 90's, "pico" was always the go-to editor for those who didn't want to mess around with emacs or vi.

Jove was the big editor on campus at the University of Rochester back in the very early 90's, mostly because Jonathan Payne, who wrote it, attended the school. When I got there I pushed for Joe adoption because it was a simpler editor for the less geeky undergraduate users to use. Pico never really was a phenomenon there at the time.

And springs! They brought up springs, surely. But it is true that Hooke is underrated in popular culture, in part because Newton thought very little of him, unfairly.

Wouldn't any geometry that violates any of Euclid's five postulates be non-Euclidean? Yes, the parallel lines one is the most famous, but surely a geometry that violates any of the other four would be too.

How would you violate one of the other four?

Postulate 1 defines what a line is.

Postulate 2 defines what a direction is.

Postulate 3 defines what a circle is.

Postulate 4, in modern terms, doesn't say anything at all. (We aren't even sure why the Greeks felt it was necessary to state it!)


Well, for 1, consider spherical geometry. In Euclidean geometry, there can be only one line between any two points. But consider the lines on a sphere between the antipodes (like lines of longitude on Earth) -- there are infinite lines of longitude that connect the North and South Poles, not just one.

That's postulate 5, parallel lines meeting. Postulate 1 says that a line can be drawn between any two points. Drawing more than one line between a certain pair of points doesn't contradict that. If you can draw two lines, you can draw one line.

No. Postulate 1 says that for any two points A and B, there is a line AB connecting them. While you could argue that "infinite lines" are a superset of "a line" it is pretty obvious that Euclid meant one and only one line (which is true in Euclidean geometry)

You don't seem comfortable with math.

You might observe that the way Euclid uses postulate 1 is to provide geometric constructions of shapes. If you want to argue about what he meant, what he meant was "you have a straightedge". Similarly, postulate 3 says "you have a compass", and postulate 2 says... "you have a straightedge".

You've described drawing several parallel lines that meet at two opposite points of a sphere. Postulate 1 has no problem with that - all of those lines are straight. Postulate 5 has a problem with it, because they meet.


I don't think you can say that -- I paid about that for my 2021 M1 Max with 64GB and I'm still using it four years later as my main machine. There's an argument to be made to buy an expensive computer every 5 years or so rather than a cheaper one that you need to replace every 2 years because it's become unbearably slow.

That's so far from my personal idea of "running it till the wheels fall off" that your comment genuinely reads like a parody of an out of touch wealthy person trying to justify their wild spending habits.

I've been using the same PC that I built in 2013 continuously since then. Every four or five years or so I'll buy one part in the $500 range to keep it updated. It's currently got a Ryzen 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5, and a Radeon RX 6700XT, so it's easily outperforming a brand new $3000 Macbook Pro in most workloads that I actually care about.

My initial investment in it was $1200. My total investment over the last 12 years has been about $3000.

Buying disposable computers simply does not make any financial sense to me.


Even if you are buying at the low end, hardware simply doesn't age that quickly nowadays. Comparing against of the M series chips, I'd be surprised if anyone found an M1 Air unbearably slow in a blind test. In contrast, there was a huge leap in going from say the Pentium 4 to a Core 2 Duo.

I actually find M1 Air class performance still more acceptable for all my usual dev tasks. I might only need a beefier machine for the extra RAM if I'm spinning up a lot of VMs. Otherwise though, the raw CPU performance is still quite fine.


Same here: I paid about twice as much for my 2013 Mac Pro that I’ll probably keep using until I replace it with an M5 Mac Studio at some point next year, which I’ll then plan to use for at least 5 years.

As for camera lenses, I expect my collection of manual focus F-mount Zeiss primes to have a longer useful life than their owner.


same here; I bought a M2 Max with 96GB of RAM almost 3 years ago, for €4K, but a client paid half of it for a 1 year retainer. This machine is still the best thing i've worked with, and I have zero intentions of switching this machine anytime soon (i'll probably need to replace it's battery in the future). Rather keep the same machine for 5 or 6 years than to buy a crappier one every 2 years

My laptop is still a 2012 MBP. Granted I don’t use a laptop as my main computer, I use a hackintosh desktop. I might finally buy a new laptop in 2026, 14 years is not bad. If my new laptop can last that long I see no problem maxing out the specs at time of purchase.

Nisus' killer feature back in the day was that it was a word processor that supported regular expressions for find and replace, which at the time were only found in text editors for writing code. But yes, LibreOffice supports that now.

Sounds like you've already moved on from it, but if people are looking for a pretty seamless Evernote replacement, Joplin (open source) is pretty much an exact replica of Evernote and can import Evernote data.

The annoyance I have when considering a move away from Evernote is that none of the recommended alternatives have IFTTT support.

(Although having said that, I do drop most of my notes into iOS/macOS Drafts these days which also doesn't have IFTTT support. But I could probably lash something up with webhooks and SQLite if absolutely necessary.)


>And suppose the amount is as trivial as you propose. Then why does a multi-trillion dollar conglomerate need that pittance from a million ordinary people?

Reminds me how in the 1970s and 1980s there used to be these ads in the back of magazines in which a person who supposedly became a millionaire sold pamphlets for $5 telling his secrets to success. The obvious question was why such a successful person would need $5 from poor people (unless that was one of his secrets to success, I suppose).


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