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Might be easier for AI to generate this specific bullshit because of curl's long history.


This is essentially what teachers are dealing with every day, across the majority of their students, for every subject where its even remotely possible to use AI.


Why not deal with it the same way teachers have always felt with students breaking the rules?


Wife is a high school history teacher - she would have to flunk 75% of her students. That is after proving they used AI, which would be extremely time consuming. Its very demoralizing for her, she has to spend a lot of time reading written essays generated by AI.

I think given time educators will adapt. Unless they get burnt out first. She could also just not give a shit and they let go on to be some college professor's problem, who could also not give a shit, and then they become our problem when they enter the workforce.


You can go back to requiring home assignments be written by hand. It won't completely fix the AI issue, because you can still ask ChatGPT and then rewrite it, but it helps because it's very tedious and time consuming, so the benefit is much lower.

If that is not enough, we may have to stop grading take-home papers. Which is a good idea anyway.


This is not a bad idea, teaches dexterity too. Just don't be too harsh on those of us who have had and always will have terrible handwriting :)


The educators will adapt. They might use AIs to grade papers written by AIs.

Or, do what my kids' school did for some classes. Instead of teaching in class and then assigning homework, the homework will be reading a text book and classroom time will be spent writing essays by hand, doing exercises, answering questions, etc...


How does grading with AI help when the content is generated by AI? might as well just take humans out of the loop, but I don't think we're in a post scarcity society yet...


Then they should be flunked. It sucks but parents need to enforce real learning. Schools can't be the sole "responsible" entity here. This is not the instructor's fault and school admin needs to push back. We as a society need to push back otherwise it all falls apart. Not everyone can be a blue collar worker, and most of the BC workers I know tend to be decent at math at least in those items that are part of their work, which they certainly couldn't have picked up if they didn't at least know some basics arithmetic


Maybe this is the answer to the fermi paradox. Intelligent life eventually invents the LLM, education collapses, dumb people empowered by technology destroy the environment.


> Its very demoralizing for her, she has to spend a lot of time reading written essays generated by AI.

I think that obvious solution is for them to write those essays in school.


I mentioned it already, my sister resigned from her tenure track position due to a fight over this. She was strict, students reported her, faculty wouldn't assign her choice course, she resigned after one and a half year.


This is why in person tests are given and bad grades as a result as part of the student feedback performance improvement loop. Maybe with AI as a new interloper we need to decrease "report card" times to 3 weeks (it was 9 weeks in my day) so that students have some shortened loop time with parental unit reviews to help straighten out issues before they become real problems.


Because the US is assbackwards when it comes to education since the NCLB basically forces schools to make up metrics to prevent everyone losing their job through closure.


Because a teachers job is to make sure N% of the class passes as much as it is to teach. If you fail have the class, you have failed as a teacher because the administration will get parents coming in. If you force your class to do assignments by hand, especially in younger grades, more will fail, and you will be blamed and fired.


Because 1) you often can't prove it, and 2) there often isn't support from administration.


Education as a profession will have to change. Homework is pointless. Verbal presentations will have to become the new norm, or all written answers must be in the confines of the classroom... with pen and paper. Etc...


So essentially they randomly cut off a bunch of long time maintainers for some vague legal and/or security reasons. If there was real reason to do that in a hurry, that's what we need to see, not a corporate PR message.


100%. I assumed this was inspired by the supply chain attack, but what a horrible way to address this. Reverting it back before revoking it a second time is even more bizarre. Severely mixed messages from leadership, perhaps?


It’s not clear to me - did they entirely cut them off, or did they reduce their role as admin of the GitHub org?

If so, I'm not defending it, and I could understand why someone would feel insulted by that - but also get why an org doesn't want too many with elevated privileges.


According to the author's PR where she removed herself as a maintainer, she lost commit access.

https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/8987


I know its against the content policy on HN but I really wish I could reply with that gif from Veep where she's nervously laughing while mouthing "what the fuck".

Seriously... wtf.


Can you comment on the other organizations who've had similar experiences recently?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45287607 https://www.reddit.com/r/AWSCertifications/comments/1aj3i16/...


Move to other platforms? xD


yeah its a shame really, I've tried to explain this to our CEO when he wants to use AI slop headers for our blog entries. Just spend 5 cents on a stock photo if you need to.


Unless I've got the timeline wrong did the author contact ICEBlock's creator about the outdated Apache version and then a few hours later post publicly about it? If that's the case I can understand why he blocked the author.


he made the first post about it a few hours after, only gesturing at the potentional. Gave it one week, then posted another spelling it out explicitly


Got it, I had to re-read the post a few times before it made sense. I think ICEBlock's creator is definitely a doofus but Micah isn't doing themselves any favors with the way they reported this - more like a "gotcha" than an actual vulnerability disclosure.


you are mistaken, read the article


Aḷl the information is in the article...


A lot of commenters don't seem to understand how much of a pain in the ass rolling your own NAS is. And then dealing with drive failures and expanding the storage pool, which is dead simple with Synology, but is completely hair raising (if not impossible) with other solutions.


> The rewrite took 2 weeks. We removed 60% of features. Added a simple progress bar. Built Slack integration for questions. Created "done-for-you" workflows.

> Our support tickets dropped 70%.

If this isn't fake something is extremely wrong with this picture.


Reddit has become an outlet for creative writing. This might have been inspired by some real life events, or it might have been pure fiction. Either way the end result is dripping with the typical Reddit creative writing elements, with a dash of LinkedIn style business storytelling.


Lots of people also lie in the reddit comments.

They say they have a certain job, work for a certain company, or know how to do a certain task; and they get the terminology completely wrong, or make up stuff that is obvious to someone who actually knows, but sounds good to people who don't know.

Karma is a hell of a drug.


It sounds like it's a B2B SaaS product that's gone through multiple pivots with very weak guidance on product on every step.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but it's a very common way for things to go wrong.


There's just something about the specifics that seems really odd to me. "60% of features"... really? Sixty percent, specifically? Like I think this story is maybe based on some series of events at a SaaS and I agree with you in principle but it seems like the author ran it through a Linkedin thought leader LLM.


60% of the features in a product small enough to rewrite in 2 weeks is probably 3 features.


You can tell it's fake by the LinkedIn-y prose, which is always short sentences followed by a "mic drop moment."


Of course it's fake, it's Reddit. How does this dredge reach the front page?


Since it doesn't have as much interest from FAANG people treat it like its dead meat. Rails powers a ton of smaller apps (and some very large ones) but everyone thinks their idea is the going to be the second coming and therefore it needs all the insane optimizations that power Google etc.


The money is in working for a FAANG. So that's what Devs trains for.

There's not much money in working for a small saas unless you're the founder.


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