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The president of the United States is almost 80. Bernie Sanders is 83. The Stones are still touring, …

Ed Thorpe is well into his 90s. Here’s an interview with him at 89. Seems quite healthy: https://youtu.be/CNvz91Jyzbg?si=VNj61A256ZOBM977

This 10 minutes deals directly with fitness and longevity: https://youtu.be/dzCpUbkC1dg?si=LqV-tUFyxyYMW0qC


Mentioning the president is a bit like saying the pope is old. They are both selected/elected old.

I don’t care at all about the pope; they’re meaningless entities.

The President, however, especially when Congress is forced to toe their line, is. No president should be permitted to be more than 20 years older than the median age of the general population when they’re done leading the country. In this case, they shouldn’t be more than 58y old when their 8y term is up. This way, they and their progeny need to live with the decisions made for at least ~20y after they’re out of office.

There’s a reason there is forced retirement in some industries and government groups. Why the fuck we don’t enforce similar rules on the president I’ll never know.


Yeah, I’m just being lazy because I’ve answered this question many times.

Here’s one from 3 years ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34985088

You can always ask the AI:

Politics & World Leaders • Nelson Mandela (1918–2013) – Former President of South Africa, died at 95. • George H. W. Bush (1924–2018) – 41st U.S. President, died at 94. • Jimmy Carter (1924– ) – 39th U.S. President, currently 100 (as of 2024). • Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother (1900–2002) – Died at 101. • Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1921–2021) – Died at 99.

Arts & Entertainment • Kirk Douglas (1916–2020) – Actor, died at 103. • Olivia de Havilland (1916–2020) – Actress, died at 104. • Betty White (1922–2021) – Actress/comedian, died at 99. • Norman Lear (1922–2023) – Television writer/producer, died at 101. • Tony Bennett (1926–2023) – Singer, died at 96.

Science & Literature • Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) – Philosopher, died at 97. • Rita Levi-Montalcini (1909–2012) – Nobel Prize–winning neurologist, died at 103. • Frank Lloyd Wright (1867–1959) – Architect, lived to 91. • Maya Angelou (1928–2014) – Poet and author, died at 86 (not 90s, but close). • Isaac Asimov (1920–1992) – Science fiction author, died at 72 (not 90s).

Business & Other Notables • David Rockefeller (1915–2017) – Banker/philanthropist, died at 101. • John D. Rockefeller (1839–1937) – Oil magnate, died at 97. • Iris Apfel (1921–2024) – Fashion icon, died at 102.


The powerball lottery is the greatest investment you can make also if you happen to win.

You have no point.


People thought the President had died just yesterday because of how rapidly his health has declined since taking office in January. Bernie Sanders, for example, has had multiple health emergencies over the past few years.

Using a few famous people as examples is hardly a reliable metric. My aunt is still alive at 103 and will likely make it to 104 if nothing changes. She has fewer health problems than other family members in their 60s if you discount the fact that she’s basically blind, can't hear well, is stuck in a bed 24/7, and has severe dementia that prevents her from recalling things seconds after being told, aside from some specific memories from her youth. Meanwhile, almost all of her children died under very poor health conditions in their 70s and 80s. Her oldest daughter looked like she was a corpse at 80.

Some people just get lucky with their genes, and it doesn’t always pass on to their children or grand-children.

PS: For reference, she had 11 children, almost all dead now while she's alive and can't recall their names or ever having children.


I’m not sure what we’re arguing here.

I responded to someone who said that people in their 70s are already in decline.

How many good years after 70 did she have?

A few weeks ago, I had lunch with a friend and his 80-year-old wife. I would’ve never guessed she was 80.


Yes, the term is “health span” and that’s basically what everyone is talking about every single time you read an article on the subject.

Why do people think the world’s second largest economy (largest by PPP) can’t build its own semiconductor industry? Of course, it’ll be difficult but China has shown that it can play the long game.

Even if they couldn't get to parity with the West (ASML + TSMC + NVIDIA), the article starts with the admission that SIMC is already producing chips that are only one or 2 generations behind the state of the art. They can rely on sheer quantity to offset the quality gap. All it takes is enough energy to keep the datacenters running, and China installs more solar power and more nuclear power every year than the rest of the world combined.

Don’t want to focus on the corporate espionage too much but even a little combined with getting a piece of the global semiconductor market should be sufficient to bootstrap China onto the global stage.

Similar to how China is exporting EVs globally while the US has effectively banned them.

If Europe, etc starts to purchase Chinese semiconductors, non-Chinese revenue will shrink.


TSMC is now a monopoly with over 500 customers. It’s more than a money problem

Intel really never had big external customers and the ones that tried also failed, like LG.

Yes, but without external customers to pay for the newer advanced fabs, Intel can no longer afford to invest in fabs.

Agreed. Their problem is both, struggles with new EUV fab and don't have the org capable of working with customers.

Not an American monopoly though.

ASML is also a monopoly that’s not American.

You must be missing something.


Typical story of the one of many products of globalism where the standard traditional definition of monopoly has been nullified by it's massive supply chain spanning countries.

Did you look at this headline?

“The Chips Act wasn’t about raising revenue, and an equity share wouldn’t enhance national security.”

Every generation of fab is increasingly expensive. TSMC has over 500 customers, including Intel. Intel basically only has Intel to pay for those $20 billion fabs.



Yes, build fabs based on demand. Don’t spend $100 billion on capacity that’s not needed.


He said he’s only building out 14a capacity as needed. A fab is $20 billion a pop. TSMC has 500 customers to pay for each fab. Intel has Intel. Every new generation is increasingly expensive. Intel needs to find other customers

Why don’t you already understand this??? You are misleading everyone.


Intel only up 4%. Seems unlikely.


You act like climate change is widely accepted in America. Ten years ago we had the “snowball in the Senate “

https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8?si=OEH_z3MWepphypp6


Did they swap ours with a banana republic idiot that thinks more money now is more important than long term environmental sustainability? Where is the birth certificate!?

I guess we all have to choke down poisonous mass air pollution now due to this policy.

I think people will remember having been able to see the mountains in Mountain View for awhile during COVID.

UCS: Union of Concerned Scientists has cited studies which show over 97% consensus on climate change.

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change > Assessment reports: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Cli...

Scientific consensus on climate change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climat...

I'm not sure what use of force in self defense is justified in response to regression to mass poisoning by industry and government policy - in castle doctrine stand your ground states at least - in regards to greenhouse gases.


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