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Why does he keep referring to here as "the English isles" it's really annoying. These are the British Isles.


Or they do nothing? What exactly do you want? Most people I've spoken to in tech view it positively. But I guess people have to moan about everything these days.


Rather than asking your "people in tech" whose opinions are entirely irrelevant to the point of Turing's persecution, try asking people from demographics that continue to be persecuted purely because of _who_ they are.

An assurance that this won't happen again would be a good start, along with some material attempts to right a wrong (I don't know what or how that looks I'm just discussing).

I already saw the apology, but "sorry" is meaningless. Actions speak louder than words and all that.

I know gay people who have been beaten up by strangers merely for walking down the street holding hands, this disgraceful behaviour continues to be a huge issue, and more needs to be done to combat it, that can start with the government taking more firm action to combat such hate crimes.


Pretty much every environmental problem we have will be reduced if not solved with less people, especially in the first world.


The economy steadily shrinking because of a graying population is going to put environmentalism on the back-burner indefinitely, making our environmental problems much, much worse.


It won't keep graying indefinitely, that's mathematically impossible.


But many 1st world populations continue to increase, despite (for some time now) sub-replacement fertility.


Immigration.


This planet makes no sense without humans.


It makes perfect sense with less humans though. There wouldn't be anything wrong with settling on a billion people.


Why does it need to make sense


Because life is progress. The universe would make no sense without anyone utilising it from gametheoretical accounts.


Ridiculous knee jerk nonsense.


So does any fiat currency. This is such an old chestnut.


plock succinctly summarized[1] the "intrinsic value" of the dollar (at least to those responsible for paying U.S. taxes):

"If we take 'intrinsic value' to mean 'having some use other than to simply trade away again to someone else, or being backed by something with intrinsic value', then the dollar has intrinsic value in that it is backed by freedom from being prosecuted by the US government for non-payment of taxes."

Of course, not even gold can be said to possess "intrinsic value".[2]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7098034

[2] https://medium.com/@mormo_music/bitcoin-has-no-intrinsic-val...


Based on that argument, I'm not sure why it's incorrect to characterize Bitcoin as having intrinsic value that is backed by the guarantee that you can provably transfer them directly to another party by a mere exchange of information.

(Yes, there is a lot of BS that is currently involved in Bitcoin's market prices, but I don't think it's correct to characterize it as having zero intrinsic value.)


There is no such thing as "intrinsic value" all value is subjective.

A glass of water would be priced differently in the middle of the desert as opposed to next to the ocean.


Given that the ocean is saltwater and thus not potable, I'd expect the glass of water to have roughly the same value by the ocean and in the desert.

What defines the glass of water's price is how easy it is to get potable water where you are - in both your contexts, that's largely defined by whether there is civilization nearby.

Either way, the glass of water still has intrinsic value - it will help humans and animals stay alive when drunk.

Fiat currency has almost no such practical value (toilet paper and textile applications are two I've seen elsewhere in this thread, which is true for paper money but not cryptocurrencies).

That's the point of the phrase "intrinsic value."

It's not an _objective_ value, where the price is strictly-defined or inherent to the object. It's intrinsic, meaning that all participants in the economic system have a use other than trade for the item in question.


It seems like whenever it's mentioned, the term "intrinsic value" just introduces confusion, since people need to redefine it differently from the common use of the word "intrinsic", as that would be incompatible with subjective value.

What you're suggesting here sounds closer to "practical value", maybe?


That just means there is no specific amount of value.

Water has intrinsic value, in the form of it's many direct utilities.

You could trade the water for some other good or service, or you could drink the water.

You can't do anything with a dollar except trade it to get something else that has some intrinsic value.

The dollar is only a symbol for some value. It has no value directly itself.


While I didn't learn anything useful from the article, TIL the idiom "old chestnut". What an excellent expression!


You can use it as a bathroom tissues in an emergency


Durable goods even. Example of people in Venezuelan making bags. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tpehKSJwA


Israel. Saudi Arabia. Each for different reasons of course.


I love Duolingo but they really drop the ball it making it great and not just good. Why can't I bookmark useful info, see it all in one place, share stuff etc. This solves onr of those.


Their objective is to keep you "engaged" (watching ads and/or paying), not to actually be efficient at teaching a language, since once you learn the language you would have no reason to "engage" with the service anymore.


I'm a bit pessimistic that it might become a public company.


"It tells you to input a "postal code" which to most means a zip code" really? Get off your US centric view of the world my friend (which is often a UI problem in and of itself) only the US and Philippines use Zip codes.


He'll lose half his face but at least he'll be able to see that in a mirror!


"why most cryptocurrencies at the core are unsustainable" would you care to elaborate on such a sweeping statement?


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