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We focus on colonisation of Universe and becoming a Kardashev Type III civilisation. Literally that.


More likely we devolve into Kardashian Type society of shallow attention seekers. Or worse, we move towards a permanent divide of the insanely rich who own the machines and everyone else who struggle to make it through the day.

There are some who would say that both of these have already happened.


krap! maybe earth is ark B


We're just missing around 9001 steps between the devaluation of labor and the space exploration, which according to current understanding of physics is pure fantasy because all concepts of faster then light travel are purely "what-if" daydreams


Yes, many will suffer, many will die. The streets shall be washed in blood. All of that will happen. Immense, unbelievable suffering.

And after all that we still reach Type III and it was all worth it.


The latency problem proves to be insurmountable and we drift apart in woe at that fruitless sacrifices we made, then splinter in forgetting.


No, we don't. Billions die, including you and me, but whatever is left over populates entire galaxy.

Worth it.


Yeah, btw, AI was fantasy as well and yet here we are.


> but if everyone can do everything without any effort, it is no longer valuable.

And how is this a bad thing? Would it be good for oxygen to be valuable, or water?

What's with this fetishistic obsession with "value"? What's bad about living in a world where nothing holds any value whatsoever?


Nestle lawyers argue that yes, water should be valuable.


Rockos Basilisk will take care of them.


Not everyone is a nihilist


How is not caring about things having a "value" being a nihilist? If everything is absolutely free for everyone, you see that as a bad thing?


“Nothing holds any value” and “nothing costs any money” are two entirely different ideas. The former is nihilism. The latter is communism.

Neither paint a pretty picture in my book


Define "pretty" picture. Everything free for everyone aka communism sounds amazing and tell me how it's better than what we have now with people starving and child amputees having to beg for pagpag in dumps of Manila.


Ah yes on this glorious day let us convene the committee for the meting out of free items to everyone. Ah shit someone stole them all.


Your snarkiness and cynicism doesn't debunk extrapolated long term trend predictions.


Neither does yours.


The only way to solve inequality created by concentration of AI superpowers will be extreme violence, and I'm tired of pretending that's not the case.


You say that like inequality is a problem. If so, there's a really easy way to solve it: nuke the planet back to the stone age.

Personally, I'd rather have inequality if it means everyone can live a peaceful life. Let the rich have their yachts or whatever.

I don't see why the increased productivity provided by AI won't make things better, given that all of the ills of the world are caused by scarcity: that is, insufficient productivity.


> I'd rather have inequality if it means everyone can live a peaceful life

Thank God a large majority of people with ironclad convictions don't think like you.


They actually do, if you ask them better questions. "Inequality" is a boogeyman that has a lot of baggage attached to it by society but, if you were to ask people if it was a good thing for millions of people to be lifted out of poverty if the cost was that on person was obscenely wealthy, most people would side on the side of inequality.

"Inequality" is just an academic word for "Keeping up with the Jones'". Each generation has more material good, both necessities and otherwise, than previous generations. It's only through comparison that people are made to feel poor. Rather than look at trends of poverty and flourishing, people are made to feel cheated by not getting a slice of someone else's pie.


I don't think so, in fact it might be counterproductive. I think it could and should be done within existing structures. But it will require mass mobilisation and counters to mass propaganda.


Are you ready for great age of suffering? Because there will be no saving, no UBI, no plan B. This is it. This is the end of careers and beginning of centuries of misery. AI will replace everyone except around 3%. If you aren't one of those 3%, start accepting the reality of infinite pain.


Or you know the 97% can just kill the AI. I’d probably go that route.


You can't kill what's more intelligent than you and ubiquitous. You can the 3% though...


Leave EU now and let them ROT.


Done


There is a special place in hell for people who share locked articles.


In this case it suffices to disable javascript. The article loads in full and the paywall is generated on the client side.


Or reader mode + refresh.


Yeah, nobody wants to go through that. Let us use for free and see if it's worth it.


> How could updating the software possibly make a difference here? If the encryption is cracked, then who is to say who owns which Bitcoin? As soon as I try to transfer any coin that I own, I expose my public key, your "Quantum Computer" cracks it, and you offer a competing transaction with a higher fee to send the Bitcoin to your slush fund.

So if this understood knowledge, it means you cannot really transfer to quantum safe algo for Bitcoin. Are we only ones aware of this? Because if this true, it's actual alpha and Bitcoin should be sold asap and exchanged for land and physical gold.

Am I wrong here?


This is WRONG and a very common stupid belief. Traditional banks will just transfer easily to safer encryption, since they are centralised. Bitcoin won't. Bitcoin will die and world will undergo infinite suffering.


Surely top Bitcoin holders know this... so, why hasn't it crashed yet? Explain please.


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