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That seems very low for such a high profile site/project

I donated an amount but the bar didn't move and is at the same level($395) as before my donation


If you follow the "Foundations work" link at the bottom, you're taken to another page that shows $4,675 of $11,000 November goal.

Looks like the first $1000 goal is specifically for maintaining to he NTP website and maybe developers? While the other is a broader goal for the foundation

The bar is still at $395. I am suspicious.

I think someone is manually updating the site to whatever the current donation amount is.

[11] Ads on Family Hub Cover screens will serve contextual or non-personal ads. Family Hub devices are not collectiong[sic] personal information or tracking consumers.

How are they serving "contextual" ads without collecting/tracking anything?


Probably lifestyle and food/kitchenware ads. They know you can afford a smart fridge even if they know nothing else about you.

Rule 34


I hope they start to-reinvent the way things are accessed so that I can stop being the product.

You can already ask ChatGPT for product recommendations and they(at least in what they say) don't take product placement or ad money.

It would be incredibly refreshing to have a portal into the current internet in which I am not the product.

I'd pay them substantially to be an unbiased assistant rather than some conglomerate shoving whatever they're paid to shove down my throat


I'm increasingly reluctant to hand over more context from my life to OpenAI and Google etc. Giving Gemini etc access to all my emails, notes etc is just a step too far IMO.

The future of these products absolutely needs to be locally running, private solutions rather than cloud based, and if they can't provide that, I'll be using open source alternatives instead.


> I'd pay them substantially

Pay for Kagi Ultimate: private search, and your selection of multiple models.


I don’t trust anyone to provide anything like this. Our best bet is a box of AI connected via USB so it doesn’t have a way to access the network, but this means open weights, which I don’t think any frontier models will have available (without a scale breakthrough, anyway).


> I hope they start to-reinvent the way things are accessed so that I can stop being the product

Every token incurs a cost.

They are giving away a browser for free.

Do the math.


Don't they have a deal with Walmart?


I use it. No issue

The only app so far I've found that won't work is ParkMobile and you can just use their website


My YT premium recently expired for a payment issue and ffs the ads are absolutely insane.


If you have a problem they take 4 weeks to fix it all while you're paying $50+/day for a rental car that they will fight you tooth and nail on reimbursing.

One local dealer refused to honor under warranty the work another dealer did.

If you have any damage (even minor cosmetic) they will blame that on your issues regardless of relativity.

(I have a Hyundai that's had the ICCU replaced once, the ABS IEB twice, and the low-voltage battery 3 times, two of the 3 times on my dime. All on a less than 3-year-old car with less than 100k miles)

The company has been miserable to deal with compared to my past experiences with other brands.


Everything I've heard of their dealers & service departments are what keep me away from their EVs. On the one hand, performance/looks/fun factor to price, they are a pretty good value. On the other hand, if I were to spend $70k on an Ioniq 5N, I would have expectations of service which they are clearly not going to meet. So at that pricing level, its back to BMW EVs.


fwiw I've heard from others that their experience with Kia has been much better. That seems hard to believe since Kia is owned by Hyunday.

I definitely expected more Hyundai when I bought the most expensive EV they had to offer at the highest trim level available.


Very interesting. I had considered the Genesis sub-brand if only for the separate dealers, though there are much fewer of them.

On the plus side a lot of the Genesis vehicles seem like they slap every option the Germans make you pay $1000s each for into the base model, so decent value from that perspective.

I've sat in their EV hatch thing the GV60 in showroom and was impressed by the base features set. I also had a decent length uber ride sitting in the back of their ICE sedan, either the G80 or G90 and it was a nice executive sedan. My backseat reclined, it had motorized shades, the air vents in the back were actually powerful, etc.


Good writeup except the entirely false timeline shared at the beginning of the post


You need to clarify such a statement, in my opinion.


Yea the "timeline" indicating impact start/end is entirely false when you look at the traffic graph shared later in the post.

Or they have a different definition of impact than I do


Presumably the route hijacker wouldn't have a valid private key for the certificate so they wouldn't pass validation


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