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Those gestures have been pretty standard with mouse movements in music software for a while. Apple brought it to touchscreen, but they didn't invent the multi gesture knob interface.

I had a Novation Zero SL mkii in 2008 which had a "universal knob". It acted as an HID mouse input and when you spun the knob it would click your mouse and drag it vertically. It worked with most music software at the time because vertically dragging a knob had become fairly standard.


You'd have a discontinuity. A knob naturally rotates back to its start. A slider never does and would have to pacman-wrap itself back to the start.

There's no motion you could make that would infinitely increase without a break. A knob you can just move your cursor in a clockwise circle infinitely.


> There is absolutely no way you successfully adjust two knobs at the same time on a multitouch display, let alone while doing live music

I do it all the time on an iPad. It handles up to 5 simultaneous controls very well.


There's a demo app for the original iPad multitouch display, which can distinguish eleven simultaneous inputs.

Prompting the obvious question: Why eleven?


You don't ever use your nose as an additional input device? I thought everyone did that.

Same here

That's effectively the same as the Apple knob modes where you can drag vertically or horizontally, except the visual slider would be locked to one orientation.

There are some music software that do this, and it looks clunky shifting between a graphic of a slider when you're moving it and a graphic of a knob when you're not.


The difference with the Apple knob is that you would be given a strong cue for what to do after you tap on the knob. The current knob design has no cue until you press and slide, when you see a value change. But you have to do it right before you get any cue. Real knobs are turned; not tapped, pressed or slid. The slider shows you an affordance that works. The knob shows you an affordance that does not.

"what-changed-twice" tells me exactly what the command does. "squash-what" tells me nothing, why is the program name asking me what to squash, and then why does it not squash? The only inaccuracy I can think of in the name is that it's technically "what-changed-more-than-once." But if something has changed thrice, by definition it's also been changed twice.


> “squash-what" tells me nothing, why is the program name asking me what to squash, and then why does it not squash?

‘squash-candidates’ would address all of that.


   what-changed-once-more


I don't get how an article showing that 70% of people don't use adblockers is supposed to be a disagreement with the statement that most people don't use adblockers.


It’s an argument against only “someone in the industry” uses ad blockers like it’s a technically difficult thing to do.


GP is overboard42. mpalmer is GGP / OP.


> Can't fault the logic. Will never use it if that's part of what they've chosen to paywall.

Is pretty damn rude. It's the kind of thing you say online but would never say face-to-face.


I'm not sure we agree on what constitutes "pretty damn rude". It was an inelegant, hastily expressed opinion.


Yes, inelegant, hasty, and with no regard to the person across the wire you're communicating with. Self serving and rude.


You are incorrectly implying that I made the comment after the author joined the thread. This is not true.

Hastiness and inelegance tends to happen when you want to trip over yourself to make a point on this site, which we're now both guilty of.


> Let me correct that for you - the guy who brought you the first Bitcoin exchange

Oh wow, that exchange must be doing very well and be super successful and not have any controversies, right? It's still alive at least, right? /s. Acting like losing over 700,000 bitcoins is a sign of credibility is just wild.

This isn't the flex that you think it is. You guys really should have gone to prison.


I pronounce using with an S unless I'm saying it very slowly


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