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Cameras with good software work great for that, however the data should NOT be freely accessible outside of the city/jurisdiction they surveil. That's the issue with Flock vs any other AI camera/database product.

So is Airdrop now less secure or private? I don't trust any standard Google had their hands in.

First time I hear about Google tech being insecure or not private. Sure they siphon all the info THEMSELVES, but never have I heard about them implementing insecure protocols.

> but never have I heard about them implementing insecure protocols.

That's because they don't. Google takes security seriously. There's a reason GrapheneOS is only supported on Pixel devices currently as well, because of certain hardware security features.

Nothing you do with Google is private from Google but it's certainly designed to belong only to Google, your data is one of their most important assets. Of course they are going to secure it and prevent others besides themselves from getting or using it.

It's the most common misconception with Google, that they "sell your information." They don't, they never have. They use your info, aggregated with all other Google users, to sell targeting for ads. They don't sell the actual data.


> Nothing you do with Google is private from Google but it's certainly designed to belong only to Google

The same also goes for Apple, although Apple doesn't monetize your data as much so they collect less. They'll suck up all kinds of data out of your devices but will strictly protect that data from third party applications any way they can. They're also willing to use that protection to prevent interoperability or integration with third-party devices.


Yeah, Apple collects a lot of the same stuff.

The difference for me is in the business model, and the fact that Apple offers true E2E encryption for photos while Google doesn't. If Google ever made their own version of Advanced Data Protection for Pixel phones, it'd be a wash.


Apple does pose more private defaults, though they will easily steer your towards "make backups encrypted with a key we also know in case you lose your password", which isn't much more private than Google's proposition.

When Google announced their AI hardware features, I was hoping they they'd implement the same offline/encrypted photo indexing that iOS does, rather than shoving everything through the cloud. Unfortunately, Google Photos seems as bad as ever.

On the other hand, setting up automatic backups and photo sync towards a self-hosted Immich/Photoprism instance is a lot easier on Android than on iOS in my experience, despite Google's reluctance to grant storage permissions to apps.

Google does actually have a kind of extended protection (https://developer.android.com/privacy-and-security/advanced-...), but that feeds more data to Google rather than less: it basically has you trust Google to protect you, by having Google pre-scan your browsing and locking down your account. If you're American, that may be worth it if you trust Google enough. It's a combination of Lockdown Mode and Advanced Protection Mode on iOS.


It is more precise to say, that they sell the idea, that they know better due to the fact that they have the data about you.

Yeah. They sell access to you, so an advertiser can tell Google "I want this shown to a mid-thirties tech worker living in SF who likes x,y,z and frequents traveling to q" and Google will show you their ad.

On every Apple interoperability thread this argument comes up and at this point I'm convinced it's part of some coordinated effort; surely no one can be that clueless to actually believe this, especially on a technical forum?

AirDrop is a peer-to-peer protocol, both the recipient and initiator need to explicitly take action, and even in Apple's implementation provides no authentication (recipient device is chosen by name, which anyone can change in their settings app). There is no way the existence of this Android client would reduce Airdrop security on iOS.

Do you also believe that TLS between an Apple device and a Windows device not secure either, since the Windows device uses a different, non-Apple-sanctioned TLS implementation, and the mere existence of which would somehow weaken Apple's TLS stack?


I don't think it's possible for it to get less secure or private.

The walled garden is breached, run for the hills!

Did you read the security analysis that was done on this implementation?

Eh... there is an open source AirDrop implementation, it's 6 years old now.

https://github.com/seemoo-lab/opendrop


Your clicks need a round-trip to Redmond so they can sign off on it. It's for the greater good you see.

So even their thinly-vailed claim of using the data for support and "issue diagnostics" falls flat, because they don't even provided support for the device at all. It's just data collection.

Even claiming it's for academic research datasets would be a better excuse.


Seems far more likely that they use a microservices architecture, and while they decommed the frontend that allows users to adjust their thermostats, they haven't bothered decomming the telemetry data ingestion services yet.

They want everyone to see what the webpage looks like on their Mac.

I'm on a Mac and that scrolling speed is not how Mac's scroll. The acceleration and drag are all wrong.

It's weird and laggy on Mac too. Not sure who this is for.

>Amazon’s platform will be the middleman between the customer and the dealership

It's just a lead generator like any other. Why did Amazon choose to enter that market?


Because they make $60B/yr on advertising and car sales is a very valuable ad market.

It's a service we all pay for, it's stupid that Republicans required it to turn a profit. Using the same logic, the US army had a $215 billion yearly loss in 2024, and should be reformed.

USPS has been an independent agency since the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970. We pay for it by buying stamps and other services, not much different than FedEx or UPS.

It's an ad for their service. By "The Network state AG", co-founded by Alex Recouso (who curiously does not have a Wikipedia page, and very little information on google not controlled by him). Related to a concept promoted by A16Z, Vitalik Buterin, Srinivasan (an investor!) and other creepy crypto billionaires.

It uses the same sentence structure as Palantir's advertising. Very final. Very direct. Inevitable.

Incredibly off-putting knowing the philosophy of those invested in the concept.


They have enough investor money they don't need to recoup it selling used drives. Straight to the shredder.



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