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Hmm, I guess I don't really get the concept. I still don't know how this stops constant interruption from emails, Zooms, and messaging pings.

If the block on my calendar for this is supposed to help stop people contacting me -- well, it doesn't stop them now.

I'm glad this seems to work for some people though.


Do you just imagine parents at home with their developing children, wearing masks 24 hours a day?

Or that they only learn how to emote and facial expressions from their limited interactions outside their home?

Wear a mask. The kids will be fine.


no thanks! I live in South Dakota and haven't worn a mask since the school system I work in lifted the mask mandate at the start of July, and before that I only wore it in the lobby of my building. everything's going great here! the bottom floors of my building are a YMCA daycare and I get to smile at and greet many unmasked small children every day, it gives me a tiny bit of joy coming and going from work. I appreciate the unsolicited instruction though, and the kids will in fact be fine.


I was on the phone with them getting a demo of Enterprise Managed Users at the time and the demo was failing too, ha. So we looked at the status page together and saw all yellow.

Doesn't matter, I wanted EMUs without the demo anyway. Still was funny to happen when I was talking to an engineer at the time.


Only commenting to say their site makes me mad cause it breaks the browser history. I click the link, go to the fb engineering site, and the back button has no history to go back to HN. Dark Pattern UX -- gross.


Can’t confirm. It works exactly as expected in Firefox (private mode because FB links open in the FB container otherwise), so maybe it’s some extension you have installed? FB Engineering links are usually pretty clean, and they don’t even have a reason to try and keep you there.


Yeah if you're using Firefox and you have the FB Container, it's working as advertised


Tried with clean profile Firefox and Chromium. Back button works fine with both.


Works fine for me in Chrome 91.0.4472.164 on a Mac.


Same here. Only in firefox (using v90.0)


If I want to learn a new technology, that's been out a while, I make sure to look for jobs for it first. Just a gut check on how many opportunities are out there for it.

This doesn't work for something brand new of course, but I still do a cursory look through job sites to see what I can see.

Like for instance on Dice.com right now there are 60 jobs available. If I were interested in Clojure today and saw that, I probably wouldn't bother because I know Clojure is mature but there's not a market for it apparently.

Again, this isn't meticulous or scientific at all, just a gut check with a few searches.

Then again, Rust only has 13 jobs listed soooooo.....


Yeah, coincidence, saw the same on my Mac.


If you have an iPhone yes. Will it let the Android users know?


I don't want my device sending or receiving any data using my data plan without my knowing. Do apps I have installed send shit constantly? Sure. But those are MY apps -- that's on me for using them. But if someone else has a tag, and I'm near it, my phone shouldn't be used to send/receive data about said tag at all. I definitely don't like this "we created a network of devices and everyone is opted in" setup.

Similar to the hub-bub raised of Alexa devices "sharing" internet connectivity.


Had to scroll way too far in this discussion to find a kindred spirit. I despise bluetooth. It's so flaky, invasive, and resource hungry.


Never heard of this but now I'm in love.

Now to figure out what I can write about.

Though I'm definitely going to use this for internal docs at work probably. Very nice.


Really? Define it then.

Facebook is a website by all technical terms.

Where is the hard defined line between social media services and a website?

What is a website that hosts a forum?

What is Discord?

What if I run a WordPress website with the BuddyPress plugin?

What about comments on my blog articles?


You could discriminate by just listing names of the platforms that this law is intended for or go by number of (polish?) users.


A while ago, I got a lot of flack here for suggesting that github wasn’t a social media website.


Ben Thompson, of Stratechery, had an interesting way of talking about Facebook that might help with a future definition of "social media services."

He (and podcast co-host John Gruber[0]) talked about the idea that Facebook isn't the same site for any two people. Due to the algo, everyone has their own personal version of the site. Therefore, there's no individual snapshot of Facebook at any given time.

I found this an interesting concept to point out. If one needed to distinguish between a website and "social media services," perhaps a law could be drafted such that such a condition was true.

HN, for example, would be a website because commenting and voting is user-based. I suppose that might mean Spotify and Netflix would be swallowed by the definition. The definition would then need additional language about user-submitted content.

[0]: https://dithering.fm


Amazon.com isn't the same site for any two people. It shows you different product suggestions based on what you purchased or looked at before.


Websites that host user generated content are social media.

HN is a social media, your basement server isn’t, hosted content on AWS probably needs some definition workarounds but instinctively shouldn’t be.


What about my PeerTube instance hosted on a NUC in my kitchen? It hosts copies of videos and comments from other instances.


Boom you're a social media company. And you'll be naturally liable for hosting contents. Isn't that how Winny worked?


Technically Facebook/Twitter are not websites, but "social" applications (web/native). You need to have a user account to see (FB) or post (FB/Twitter) anything.


I need a user account to watch Netflix. Same for banking.

A user account is not the primary criteria of being a "social" application.


Where is the distinction between a company town and my living room? Define it.


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