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Well... As the guy that did all of that let me tell you: it's futile. I knew back when Bill Binney came forward. It was all documented or otherwise obvious. From this I've learned something. People are HEAVILY biased towards the version of the "truth" that lets them do what they want. Like whatever they were doing before you started talking about this shit. lol. The WANT comes first for them. Then when you complain about all of this they assume the same of you. The actuality of anything is irrelevant. They assume you must WANT for it to be true. Then infer that you must necessarily be the kind of person who's WANT is to escape society. A loser. You hemerage status by talking about any of this. So you shut up. Honestly I don't think you did anything wrong... But also, I don't know what right is anymore.


> it's futile ... People are HEAVILY biased towards the version of the "truth" that lets them do what they want.

That's hardly futile - it's just the norm, the starting point for any social change. Our society gave civil rights to a small black minority (~12% of the population now; I don't know about then) after centuries of discrimination, gave equal rights to women after millenia of descrimination, grew an environmental movement, and much more. In all those situations, the people advocating change faced far greater obstacles than what you describe, yet they changed almost every person's perception, society's norms, and almost every industry's and business' practices.

I agree it seems daunting, but then I grasp the courage of people like MLK, Rachel Carson, and others even more. Think of what they felt as they looked at the culture of their day.

(And yes, all those movements still have much more to do.)


> it's futile

I agree. I've mostly (99.999%) given up on participating in American politics for the betterment of society.

> People are HEAVILY biased towards the version of the "truth" that lets them do what they want.

I just have to point out that by taking the stance that you and I are taking, we're doing the same. I'm biased towards the version of truth that lets me live as we want. In other words, I could massively disrupt my life as Snowden did, and that actually might make a difference. However, I convince myself that it wouldn't, so I can just work, make money, and pursue my usual definition of happiness.


>Well... As the guy that did all of that let me tell you: it's futile

Wait what? you're Snowden?


> "... I could perhaps have tried to find out about things."

I meant that.

> Wait what? you're Snwoden?

Not that.


It was very polite of the parent to misspell it Snwoden to give you room to make a truthful denial.


I meant the former. It's truthful even if spelled correctly. ;)


Damn it! I just read this 10 hours later. I totally know how to spell "hemorrhage". Don't judge me posterity.


No. Your comment doesn't use any magical concepts for which I have no model. I think I entirely understood it. It's simplicity is incidental but allowed for that. People who come up with simple solutions based on Their Own Ideology are a different thing. Their solutions aren't simple. They're lies that you want to believe contingent on lies you don't know you don't want to believe. Generated mosty for control, of self or others, and never for awareness.

I think it's a good social heuristic.


> magical concepts

Depends on how you define magical concepts. Are the magical because they are too complex and require too many assumptions?

For example, by your definition, is it ok to have faith that would be associated with a religion, if that faith is based on a wide variety of experiences and acceptance of the existence of others worldviews?


> The more self-aware of them know that there is nothing good that comes out of drawing attention to their good fortune.

I'm part of this trend and I hate it. I have to be careful who I tell anything to. Many people dislike me for it. The world is so weird. I spend so much time pursuing utility via automation. It's so sad to see it mostly alienate people. Just as all of this stuff is becoming so easy and accessible. It has definitely crushed many childhood ideals. At a young age I observed a world in which people had to work too hard and couldn't focus on making good choices. I wanted them to have more time. Not less. It seems as if more and more people are entering a doom loop. Less aware. Less optimal. More time working. Less time learning. Less aware...


Please do tell re: automation. The first thing that comes to mind is trading. Or cue cards a la http://archive.wired.com/medtech/health/magazine/16-05/ff_wo....


Just software development in general. I started programming to get my math homework done faster.


I think basic income would do a lot to resolve this tension. People can work towards their own interests with a flat tax on their income and capital gains. Those tax dollars are redirected to an electronic deposit given to everyone for the same amount every day. Lets say $35. You could vote to allocate the usage of those dollars. Like 30% has to go to housing. Then everyone is free to use additional income however they like. It's a sustained capitalistic representation of basic human interests. I suspect it'd do a lot for the economy too. Both by increasing demand (poor people actually buy things) and decreasing fear.


IMO very few people who could become good engineers would choose to do so with basic income available that essentially lets them live a so-called "life of the mind." Just an opinion, of course.


IMO those very few people would benefit tremendously from a less diluted workplace. Such that they may actually seek it out were it not for the forces that drive them away. The modern startup is essentially this. It just takes a VC to make it a reality. We're a few technical iterations from essentially deprecating everyone else. We ought to start talking about this. A "life of the mind" in a world with seamless VR and other escapes could actually be wildly more productive than our current life in the world. We should just start trying to make people more comfortable. The engineering mindset seems inherently rare. I suspect distributions converge such that it simply CANNOT be pervasive in a population. What then? We're making everyone else redundant to a degree that we don't even need the entire engineering-capable subset. Honestly I think the money is and will-be potent enough to attract the capable.

Ideally we would find creative ways for other people to work if they desired it. But these may become increasingly rare and undependable. People need a safety-net they can actually reason about. Modern welfare isn't it. They could relax and think MUCH more productively if it were simply: I can live in this tiny box and eat/sleep/internet indefinitely while I learn whatever I want. $35/day buys you that.


I agree. The world needs more granular incentives.



If you have two fields in a query, does that mean two resolve functions? If I using a SQL database and the two fields were stored on two columns on the same table, wouldn't that cause 2 SQL queries to be run?


Only if each field required loading a new row, and even then batching can be used to turn this back into one query.

eg: { firstName, lastName } doesn't need to load new rows but { mother { name }, father { name } } does need to load new rows.

DataLoader (https://github.com/facebook/dataloader) is a small utility which makes batching and caching database requests straight forward.


Yes. But only one http request. If they're both the same query but access a different field you might be able to cache it.


Sangria in Scala has a mechanism called "Deferred" that lets you specify that it should ask you to resolve objects of a certain type all at once at the end, and you would do a single SQL query per object type there.

If the JavaScript implementation doesn't have something like this, perhaps it can be hacked on top.


and you'll end up with an endpoint that can potentially bomb your datastore

    query User {
      friends {
        friends {
          friends {
            ...
          }
        }
      }
    }
how do you prevent something like this happening on graphQL backed with a series of resolves that query a SQL database?


Limit recursion with a max depth parameter (sangria)


I don't need that many levels to make it explode and you probably don't want to set a very low max depth since it beats the purpose of graphql itself.


Expectations went up too. In proportion to the increase in efficiency. So people's perceptions of their own lives decrease in value. That's just how people work. You can say whatever you want about these absolutes. No one cares and you noted it yourself.


In my experience Christian's seem very supportive of the death penalty.


http://sda.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/hsda?harcsda+gss10 (2010) and http://sda.berkeley.edu/sdaweb/analysis/?dataset=gss14 (2014) are huge data sets on peoples' demographics and opinions.

Run the table "CAPPUN" vs "RELIG". Nearly every major religious position in the US (including atheist/agnostic/none) is largely in favor of the death penalty, with only Muslims and Native Americans coming out as more than 50% opposed in both sets, and "other eastern" being over 50% in the newer set.

Also of note: whites are much more in favor of the death penalty than other races, Republicans are slightly more in favor than Democrats, people with higher incomes are more in favor than those with lower incomes, and people with average education (high school or 2-year college) are more in favor than those with either very high or very low education.

(I'm from a religious subgroup that's anti-death-penalty, anti-war, pro-life, etc. and I would argue that the death penalty isn't consistent with a Christian ethic, but plenty of people obviously disagree with me.)


Thank you for posting this. All of it was super interesting. Also thank you for your assuredly thankless service as both a rational and faithful person.


"If you walk into a school, start shooting and are captured alive - I think you just forfeited any claim on life or potential rehabilitation."

Unfortunately most of the people who do this are children. They're usually in situations people would rather ignore. They're desperate. They want attention and they get it at some price that's ultimately... above market.


According to http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-m... the average age of mass shooters in general is 35.


I was only talking about school shootings but I still didn't expect it to be that high. Too bad it didn't have the median.


>Unfortunately most of the people who do this are children.

eric_the_read's comment notwithstanding, people subjected to extreme circumstances in their childhood years are less likely to be rehabilitated, not more.

The argument is that someone willing to shoot up a school for attention is beyond rehabilitation. His age is irrelevant to someone making that claim, and possibly argues in his favor.


The attention we're talking about here isn't narcissistic supply. It's basic interpersonal human concern. Shooting up a school because you're being systematically starved of your basic human needs isn't nearly as bad as you just made is sound. Otherwise I never contended with anything else you said. I do think they deserve a chance at rehabilitation but also that they're less likely to attain it.


I'm just pointing out that your argument isn't very effective. I actually agree with you, but someone taking the position that school shooters aren't rehabilitable isn't going to care whether or not they're minors. Their argument supersedes notions of maturity.


You're not refuting an argument I made. Read it again. I was simply trying to highlight the point at which we might actually have some meaningful effect on the problem. Hint: punishment is irrelevant.


This. Some kids should definitely be put it special classes where they're taught to both deal with normal people and forgive them for their ways. If you don't spend much time deceiving people then you're far less able to detect lies. That or the subtle emotional manipulation demonstrated by any modern employer. It's an utterly essential skill in the "real world".


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