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Definitely agree with the article and thoughts. Little things also make the team feel valued and appreciated, quick thanks, short appreciation/feedback, etc. Feels good.

It's interesting having been on the side of being an employee with manager not acknowledging those things overtime it's wearing. But also tough for owner/manager to make sure to keep doing it too. Either way, a good reminder to keep the positivity flowing

Out of all these haterade comments, I don't see any having scaled a company or team. Don't read HBR if you don't want to improve as a leader, simple


Agreed. It feels like there's really a difference between leadership-as-a-buzzword or an self-bestowed empty title (in good faith, maybe what the comments are reacting to), versus true leadership that is so rare it can be experienced less than ten times in a person's career. Real leadership is something special, and feels like it's the kind of actions that were exemplified by the first story in the article.


I'll subscribe to HBR with that endorsement.


Yes, there is a disconnect with HBR articles and the real world. Just look at the leaders today. People like to attribute all the great qualities to leaders and call it leadership skills. But if you look at people at the top of the food chain, you will see a completely different picture. People can become top leaders while being selfish , brutal and emotionally unstable. Just look at people such as Donald Trump (was president, so definitely was a 'leader') , Xi Jin Ping, Putin etc. The list goes on and on. Ok, if you argue these people are not actually 'leading', they are not true 'leaders' , you're redefining words to make yourself feel good. These people are the actual leaders in the real world who have immerse influence in the world (positive or negative).


There are two types of "leaders". The ones you describe are authoritarians, who are basically self-centered psycopaths, using deception, power (unhesitatingly trashing or killing anyone who is inconvenient) and making everything transactional ("...but first I want a favor..."). Yes, this is "leadership" in the sense of seizing power and wielding it, but it is unsustainable and fundamentally uncivilized. Authoritarians are always present trying to steal power, but must also always watch their back, as everyone including their opportunistic co-conspirators will want to depose them. I do not call this real leadership.

Real leadership focuses around building on the intrinsic motivations of others, being more of an organizing force to help everyone achieve the goal. Maybe it is just wiser use of more the carrot than the stick, but a signal difference is how the real leader manages attention - does she or he guide all the attention to their teammates, or are they consistently taking credit for all accomplishments and focusing attention on themselves?

The focusing of attention of course creates a bias in that the authoritarians are self-centered and make themselves more visible, while real leaders turn the focus to teammates, so we are less aware of them, and of course the authoritarians exploit this bias. We all know of Jack Welsh who ruined GE and now even has a book about him pointing out how he ruined capitalism itself, but we know little of many unsung CEOs who quietly go about building great companies for their customers and employees.

A leader I worked with from the ranks of military leadership once pointed out to me that leadership, especially in the military is exactly the opposite of what we think. Yes, everyone can lead by giving out a lot of direct orders and punishment - and those 'leaders' fail inevitably and quickly, because they lose the trust and cooperation of everyone down their chain of command. So, when they give an order, the 1st officer just says "do what the chief says" instead of digging in and adding value (teaching, more detail on the commands, etc.), and generating that adding value all the way down the chain. The leader by edict & punishment gets mostly malicious compliance, and that unit degrades to failure. Real leaders, in contrast, lead by example and inspiration, with trust and getting everyone to add value down the chain. Another friend with mil experience similarly pointed out how good leaders almost never give direct orders, just suggestions. They do not want to give the direct order where if something goes unexpectedly then everyone is required to get into the mil justice system - it's better to leave leeway for improvements. I think it is also psychologically better to be implementing the chief's suggestion than following the orders.

Just a few bits of anecdata that I hope highlight the distinction...


Interesting to read about the military, thanks for writing

> authoritarians ... it is unsustainable

I'm afraid that with internet and camera surveillance, authoritarianism is getting more and more sustainable / stable?

Think about Xi, Erdagon, Putin etc -- there isn't really anyone who has a chance to challenge their power.

Was a close call just recently in the US, with Trump I'm afraid


Yes, surveillance does make authoritarianism more sustainable. What I was referring to as unsustainable was two things.

First, there is never a reliable succession of power, whether we're talking about a benevolent dictator being succeeded by another benevolent one, or just a dictator competent at holding power being succeeded by an incompetent one.

Secondly, authoritarians always extract for themselves as much resources out of the country or company as they can, and after some time, it is unsustainable and will collapse, like USSR, Rome, etc. Although this may take a very long time - generations or centuries.

Yes it was a close call in the USA. Unfortunately that is not in the past. As being seen in the J6 hearings, this is an ongoing crime in progress, and the R party (which is at the 90% level) no longer a political party but an authoritarian gang, is working to install at the state and local level legislators and officials who will successfully overthrow the next election. It is literally the case that if people do not get motivated in November 2022 to vote out every R down to the dogcatchers, the 2024 election will not withstand the same assault, which WILL be made.

The danger is not past, and unfortunately moderates typically ignore midterm elections. Which brings us back to the sustainability question - if 2022 goes the wrong way, we may have an authoritarian US for generations or centuries. Get everyone you know to vote like your way of life depends on it - it likely does.


This is awesome and congrats on going live! I'ave had similar problems.


Thanks!


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Video: https://youtu.be/hKqw40CarLQ

Printavo is a team of 28 now and growing quickly from COVID. Job description & application: https://jobs.lever.co/printavo


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We help thousands of screen printing businesses around the world track their workflow. Printavo is a simple, but powerful solution that empowers small businesses with organizational tools, automation, reporting, and much more

Video: https://youtu.be/hKqw40CarLQ

Printavo is a team of 26 now and growing quickly from COVID. We're hiring for Mid-Sr Software Engineers to join and help us continue to push forward.

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Interesting but what if you already started sales? Would be very hard to distinguish "Organic Signups" as when you get a sales team you'll find adoption goes up. Following up on leads, helping them get going, etc (if the price point supports it, usually $200/mo+)


This is why B2C businesses are so hard. Imagine trying to convince people to pay you $2-10/mo LOL


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I started Printavo from running a screen printing business in college. We needed simple, software to keep track of our orders as they came in. The solutions that were available were complicated and expensive. I built Printavo to fix this.

Today, we're bootstrapped, profitable and a team of 20 in Chicago. We're looking for a Sr Software Engineer to join and help us continue to grow.

Please email [email protected] to chat more.

Job description: https://angel.co/company/printavo/jobs


Printavo | Chicago, IL | Full-time | Remote (US) | https://www.printavo.com

I started Printavo from running a screen printing business in college. We needed simple, software to keep track of our orders as they came in. The solutions that were available were complicated and expensive. I built Printavo to fix this.

Today, we're bootstrapped, profitable and a team of 13 in downtown Chicago. We're looking for an another Software Engineer to join and help us continue to grow.

Please email [email protected] to chat more.

Job description: https://angel.co/company/printavo/jobs


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