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But at least take the 61% option + all your other remedies then? I'm assuming the 39% failure is "the cancer kills you" and not "the surgery or complications thereof kill you."

I would assume the oncologist in OP has less of a problem with people also doing other stuff they believe helps them, vs not including "traditional" (aka scientific) medical procedures that statistically improve their chances of survival.



I agree completely. I'm only pointing out that it's a messier story than the one we want to tell (Jobs signing his own death warrant by refusing prompt treatment).


How is it not a death warrant? 61% vs 0% (or whatever the percentage was by the time he got conventional treatment?) Look, it was his body and he can do what he wanted, but he made the wrong move in a very obvious and predictable way.

Not to mention the elephant in the room: Vegan diets are probably unhealthy. They lack selenium you'd otherwise get from meats. Low selenium and pancreas diseases go hand in hand.

There's also a link between drinking fruit juices and pancreatic cancers. Jobs constantly drank fruit juices as part of his vegan/fruitarian diet. Fructose megadosing is scary stuff. Healthy sugars and still sugars. They still have calories and still need to be processed.


You're literally spreading the kind of dietary FUD this thread is trying to discredit.


> How is it not a death warrant? 61% vs 0% (or whatever the percentage was by the time he got conventional treatment?) Look, it was his body and he can do what he wanted, but he made the wrong move in a very obvious and predictable way.

61% of survival at five years. He survived longer than five years.




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