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What's this "normal" phone that comes with batteries immune to the effects of low temperature and lots of discharge cycles?


I dont know of any, nor did I say I did. But thats not what we're talking about. We're talking about a phone battery that lasts >5 years without degrdading to the point that it's causing random shutdowns even when the battery has a lot of juice left.

These batteries are in pretty much any other smartphone.


But they aren’t. There have been plenty of articles where journalists have checked this with battery experts and this is a known property of batteries. John Panzarino at TechCrunch has been all over this. It doesn’t happen to every battery, in fact it’s a minority of them, but then Apple only enables the management when they detect it. It’s just that the other manufacturers never did anything about it.


Yeah, it's a known property that batteries degrade. But it's still a problem when you underprovision the battery. If you build it to last, it will last. Just because Apple spun it as good for the user doesn't make it true.


They aren't. Random shutdowns are a fact of life for all smartphones that don't reduce voltage when the battery degrades.


I never said otherwise. But they don't randomly shut down when you have a ton of battery left.




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