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Tell HN: Google Fi horror story
20 points by oefrha on Dec 21, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments
Upshot: I don't know if mine is an isolated instance, but if you're considering or in the process of switching to Google Fi, especially if you want to use it with your iPhone, think twice.

TL;DR:

The ugly:

- My number wasn't ported after a week of activation despite calling customer support every day, and I have strong reasons to believe no one gave a damn.

- I got sub-2G speeds with their LTE in a fully-covered, densely populated area; never figured out why.

- Customer support has absolutely no troubleshooting material for iOS.

The bad:

- Phone support wait time ranges from 40 min to 60+ min; same for online chat.

The good:

- You can fill out a form and they'll call you back.

- Call center reps were polite and friendly (but weren't able to help me).

- At least no retention BS.

The full story is over 2000 characters, so I'll put it in a comment / comments.



Here's the full story.

I've been using an AT&T MVNO for years (introduced by a friend) and I'm pretty happy with it (not naming it here so that the piece won't come off as a soft sell, and that I won't be easily identified). My carrier, however, doesn't offer any international service, so I'm completely left in the dark when traveling internationally. When I read the Google Fi announcement, it appeared that with my data usage pattern, Google Fi would only cost slightly more every month and would still work outside the U.S., and the $200 credit was attractive, so I ordered their SIM, which arrived a little more than a week ago. I was of course vaguely concerned about Google's historic reputation in the customer support department, but figured that maybe I would get lucky and never have to deal with them, or maybe Google Fi customer support would be okay. Boy am I wrong.

Fast forward to when I got the SIM in the mail, I activated the service on my iPhone (XS Max) and kicked off the number porting process. It smelled slightly off right off the bat, since although I selected "other" as my carrier, the Google Fi app insisted on porting my "AT&T" number. Porting failed a few hours later so I called Google Fi customer support. The customer support representative asked me about my carrier, and actually called my carrier to inquire about the porting process. He came back with the information that my carrier's porting department closes at 6pm EST, so he called me back the next day to restart the porting process. At that point I was actually pretty impressed with the customer support. (It was later revealed that I initially entered a wrong address, since I had moved and hadn't updated my address with my previous carrier. It was not clear if porting failed due to the wrong address, or because their automated system couldn't deal with my carrier to begin with. Anyway, since a human support agent was now involved, the initial error didn't matter anymore.) I was assured that porting would complete within 48 hours, and my case was closed.

It all went down hill from there. Two separate problems occurred.

First, although the number wasn't ported yet, I was actually able to use cellular data; the data usage meter started rolling, and I could see my data bill. Except one problem: although the connection showed up on my phone as LTE, the actual speed was around 15Kbps tops (according to fast.com). That's slower than typical 2G, and most websites, as well as apps that require an Internet connection, ranged from barely usable to completely broken. (It was actually an eye-opening first hand experience on how bloated the web has become. HN was still usable, and thank God a couple of sites I run still load with in 2 seconds. You don't need all the crap to be informative; who would have guessed.)

I called customer support again, and the rep (a very friendly guy) told me outright that he didn't have any support material on iOS (I didn't press him into admitting anything). He tried a bunch of Android troubleshooting instructions on me and they didn't work. Eventually we concluded that there was nothing we could do other than waiting for the number to be fully transferred and hoping the problem would automatically go away. A hypothesis that remained a hypothesis till the end.

The second problem was that the porting process stalled. Nothing happened after 48 hours, just a "porting delayed" status and "contact us". So I started calling them every day. Every time I was told that "a specialist is working on the case, I've left a message for them, and they will contact you by email soon; just watch your inbox." Except no email ever came, and I was never introduced to any "specialist". After another three fruitless days and being told the exact same thing, I asked the lady on the phone to ask the "specialist" to email me something, anything; I just needed to know that there was actually some human being who would give my case some attention once in a while. The lady promised to do that. Not surprisingly, again no email ever came. (Note: I'm not saying it must be Google Fi's fault that the porting process stalled; it could be my previous carrier. I don't know. What I do know is that I was promised communication from Google Fi, and I didn't receive it, despite daily calls.) So at this point I was pretty sure the "specialist working on my case" simply didn't exist. I would hope that passing their promised 48 hour threshold or calling them daily would elevate my case to some higher priority, but nope. My best guess is that they had a huge influx of customers due to the flashy marketing campaign, and didn't have the manpower to keep up. Nevertheless, I was not happy being (politely) lied to, or staying in the limbo state forever. Eventually, I called them again to cancel my service. I'm glad to report that at least there was no BS around canceling.

That's the whole story. YMMV.


I have used Google Fi all over North and some of South America and the speeds have been reasonable to good. I find support a cut above typical phone company support, at least in terms of politeness and directness - but that's frankly a pretty low bar.


I liked Ting as well as Google Fi. The larger carriers seem to have bad support, but those two companies have been pleasant to work with.


> The larger carriers seem to have bad support

That's hardly surprising.

Though, in my case, I would prefer insolent customer support that solved my problem to polite customer support (I did put that under "the good") that couldn't help.


Not speaking for Google Fi at all, but one reason your port-in request might be delayed is because porting in (especially from non-major carriers that people aren't familiar with) can be tricky. I found this link a while back doing some research in porting: https://twigby.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007464067-Wh... It gives you an idea just how many different ways different carriers can handle it (mostly with account/PIN numbers).


Disclaimer: I only red the TLDR.

> I don't know if mine is an isolated instance

I would think so. I'm not even US citizen and used Google Fi in 10+ countries over the last year. With iPad and iPhone before iPhone was even officially supported. The only hassle I have sometimes is a wrongly set APN but beside that I have good speed with 3G/LTE basically everywhere I go. So I wouldn't say Google Fi if fked per sè :)


As I said, I "figured that maybe I would get lucky and never have to deal with them". It seems either you lucked out or my luck was shit. The latter is probably more likely.

However, inevitably a subset of customers will run into problems, and when that happens, having zero troubleshooting material after they officially announced iOS support is rather stupid.


> Except one problem: although the connection showed up on my phone as LTE, the actual speed was around 15Kbps tops (according to fast.com).

FWIW ~14-15K/s is the throttled rate for AT&T prepay plans after the high-speed data limit has been exceeded, which will still show up as 4G LTE service.


Can confirm this is the throttled rate for Fi. Didn't activate my sim for a bit and had similar speeds.




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