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This is a pretty simple topic if you have a good understanding of what enabled developers to pull in large comps, and what kinds of employers pay such comps. I comment on comp threads on HN frequently and don't want to rehash my entire advice, but I can illustrate one example that can be generalized to Europe and America.

Consider two hypothetical employers:

Employer 1: - We want to hire only the best. - We expect people to care about the company and act like owners. - We expect people to flex in and out of different roles. - We fire underperformers.

Employer 2: - We state exact technical qualifications for our roles. - We hire anyone who adequately meets the qualifications. - We don't expect people to do anything not in the job description. - We don't expect people to care about the company, it's just a job. - We never fire anyone.

I hope it's clear that you can make a lot more money at #1 than #2. #1 may be a FAANG and #2 may be your state's Motor Vehicles department. I also hope it's clear that #2 sounds very mainstream European in its attitude towards work while #1 oozes American exceptionalism.

In short, there's no way to raise comp without employers competing for talent but that would basically mean a complete change in employer/employee expectations.

So what happens to European developers who are good/aggressive enough to work for a place like #1? They find it in London and New York.

For what it's worth I am a dual EU/US citizen living in NYC, and my previous job took me a lot to our London office which was primarily staffed with European developers who left Europe exactly for the reasons I described.



Except salaries in London are not at all competitive with US especially if you factor in cost of living, unless you get into Fintech.


What do you mean "except?". That's exactly what I am referring to - high expectations employers who compete for too talent.


#2 is definitely not the norm in Sweden, and we do have a lot of startups.

People leave for higher salaries and broader opportunities since after all Sweden is small and isolated, but not lack of challenges


In my experience, the share of employers with culture like 'Employer 1' who pay like 'Employer 2' is much higher than the amount of all-around 'Employer 2's.




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