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why not use a heat pump for heating given its >100% relative efficiency?

Edit: apparently some VW models include a heat pump for this reason.[1] Edit 2: Apparently some Teslas have it too. [2]

[1] https://www.speakev.com/threads/heat-pump-yes-or- no.16768/

[2] https://electrek.co/2020/03/13/tesla-model-y-has-a-heat-pump...



In my opinion, proper winter-ready BEV should have a heat pump for heating the interior and battery, battery insulation to reduce uncontrollable loss of heat from battery, rotary heat exchanger to further save on heating ventilation air and double-pane windows to reduce losses from interior.

Double-pane windows would increase weight by about 5%, while decreasing losses through windows about 5x, iirc.


Where are you pumping the heat from?


yea but many places in winter heat pumps efficiency goes to basically a electric heater level and if works at all.


IIRC, cold climate specific (Mitsubishi Zubadan series for example) have COP of about ~2 at -20C. Even cheaper cold climate pumps do function at -30, albeit with COP barely above 1. So resistive heater should also be present, but it won't be used often.


Not true. Inverter heat pumps can do 8 or more btu per watt at sub zero temps.


outside, just like residential heat pumps.




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