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Ask HN: Are we creating black holes yet?
3 points by AnimalMuppet on Aug 21, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 2 comments
Do particle accelerators create black holes? Consider four scenarios:

1. Two protons collide head on, creating a quark-gluon plasma. This decays into a shower of particles that fly off in different directions, conserving charge, spin, energy, and momentum.

2. Two protons collide head on, compressing everything far enough to create a microscopic black hole. This very quickly evaporates via Hawking radiation, creating a shower of particles that fly off in different directions, conserving charge, spin, energy, and momentum.

Could we experimentally tell the difference between scenarios 1 and 2?

3. Two protons collide head on, creating a new, unstable particle. This decays into a shower of particles that fly off in different directions, conserving charge, spin, energy, and momentum.

4. Two protons collide head on, compressing everything far enough to create a microscopic black hole. This takes a detectable amount of time before it evaporates via Hawking radiation, creating a shower of particles that fly off in different directions, conserving charge, spin, energy, and momentum.

Could we experimentally tell the difference between scenarios 3 and 4? I think the answer to this question is that yes, we could tell the difference, because if it were a black hole it would decay with a time that depends only on the mass, charge, and spin, and I don't think that unstable particles follow that pattern.




Hawking radiation would contain any- and everything consistent with the no-hair theorem [1]. Particle decays are much more constrained; deviations from the decay signatures of known ones is how you (hope to) find new physics. Or black holes [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-hair_theorem

[2] https://arxiv.org/abs/1012.3375


There have to be papers on arxiv about this. Usually they involve small extra dimensions.




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