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>It's interesting to think about though. You can easily throw away a pile of cash, but never half a billion. The volume would be too big, you would notice. But a bitcoin wallet of the same street value fits on a micro SD, it could literally fall through a hole in your pocket.

It's not exactly same thing, as you obviously won't lose something like that if you already realise its value. It's more along the lines of throwing out painting from your neighbor and he becomes world best paid artist in 5 years.

Still interesting and scary to think that individual can basically "destroy" irreversibly any amount of savings by forgetting the keys/ sending it to wrong address and that can be done with 1 click.



> Still interesting and scary to think that individual can basically "destroy" irreversibly any amount of savings by forgetting the keys/ sending it to wrong address and that can be done with 1 click.

That's exactly why any large values of bitcoin ought to be stored in multisignature wallets, 3-of-5 offering pretty robust resilience to loosing a key or two. In that case, you need three different signatures to move any money, so no single click accidental failures. Time locking funds can also prevent user mistakes, as no one can move the coins until the lock time is reached on-chain.


If time locks became popular we sure would have stories like "Florida Man locks 420 millions until the year 2202 thinking it was February next year".


"Florida man accidentally time travels back to 1077 to try to make some cash on early Apple Computer investment, presumed living among native Americans now"


Hilarious !


If you set a timelock by a timestamp lock_time [2], then the latest possible time is Tuesday 2038-01-19 [2].

[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#tx

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time#Representing_the_num...


The painting part incidentally happened to my partents.

They had a friend who was basically giving away his paintings but nobody wanted them (they were horrifying, Coraline-style, and actually a picture of his mind).

He even wanted to create a paining roll with similar horrors when they were painting their apparment.

He was a very good friend but the paintings were to much.

Then he died and a few years later his paintings prices hit the roof (various hundreds of thousands of euros). My parents are still glad to not have had the paintings because they were giving them nightmares :)


> Howells grabbed the unwanted hard drive and threw it into a black garbage bag.

Would never happen to me, I am a hoarder (especially of old hard drives).


Right, it wasn't exactly an analogy. But I think it's still somewhat scary how easy it is to accidentally lose as well.


To be fair, he threw it away precisely because it didn't have much value.

It's more analogous to throwing out some of your amazon share certificates in 1997.


The thing is, if you lost your share certificate, but could still prove to the registrar that you were the legitimate owner of those shares, there's a good chance you would get them back. Likewise, if you accidentally burned a bunch of banknotes, but had sufficient fragments remaining to prove your ownership, your central bank is likely to be able to recompense you. That's one of the consumer-friendly features of centralised systems, which is considered a bug in consumer-hostile decentralised systems.


>could still prove to the registrar

Sure and if he had a multisig wallet he would still have his coins.

The equivalency is that he did none of these things.


Failing to take additional steps before a loss is conceptually very different from being able to take additional steps after a loss. You might as well list a whole bunch of additional things he could have done before throwing away the hard drive, e.g. having a recovery phrase split over multiple pieces of paper each stored in different bank vaults (like the Winkelvii), or simply keeping a back-up of the hard drive contents. If you lose the PIN to access your bank account, your bank would never say something like "sorry, can't help, you should have done X, Y or Z before you lost your PIN, but never mind [to quote Satoshi from the article] Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more."


All of your examples do is show the steps the present banking system has taken before a loss, to aid recovery in the future, after a loss.

Planning ahead is rewarded in life, what can I say.




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