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Agree with the article - the take presented in the first articles are a joke right?

They remind of the mind numbingly arrogant articles about UHNWI's that didn't have smartphones from a while back - well duh, they didn't because they had several servants that fixed their calendar, printed things, arranged meetings etc.

Same with the "no tech" Silicon Valley trend that's an incredible privilege not applicable to 99% of regular people.

You need a place to mentally park various things you need to do, ie. a todo list in todays complicated and advanced society - pay this bill, buy this thing, call this person etc.

Complexity falls with privilege.

You can't simply remember them unless living a very simple life. Maybe some very rich person can have a PA, live in the woods, or the hermit geniuses of 200 years ago worked very differently on paper and in notebooks, but today a simple todo list is absolutely needed unless living alone and with very, very few responsibilities.

I don't know anyone, like at all that doesn't have some kind of todo list, ranging from a simple unsorted list, to multiple lists to post it notes in your apartment.



> The take presented in the first articles are a joke right?

Yes, very much so. This is my first time writing for a large audience and I’m still learning how to balance the tone. My true views are at the bottom of the post and are aligned with yours.


I know, we agree i think your entire article including the first links just sparked the same feelings as they did in you. Good job honestly!


>This is my first time writing for a large audience and I’m still learning how to balance the tone.

You may want to read up on Poe's Law[0].

[0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law


Thanks for the reminder. I thought the juxtaposition of those links with people like Leonardo da Vinci and Paul Graham would be enough to make the sarcasm clear. But alas.


I think it was really good! IMHO it’s much better to leave it open for interpretation.


Thank you! That's encouraging to hear.


>I don't know anyone, like at all that doesn't have some kind of todo list, ranging from a simple unsorted list, to multiple lists to post it notes in your apartment.

i don't use a todo list. i either remember to do something or i don't. i have tried to use todo lists before but they have never worked. i just forget to check it, or i just don't end up doing the things written on it.


But don't you use some physical system then? Setting a post-it, putting bills in a stack in sight, opening a tab and not closing it etc. to alert you of something?

I mean i'm impressed if you can do everything stream-of-consciousness, but i also own both a company and have a family and could probably get away without lists when i was 22 without such distractions, but now i need to do at least 10+ things everyday, i can't remember all of that.

I would love to simplify my life but it doesn't seem feasible..


> putting bills in a stack in sight

What is this, the '90s?


I hope you don’t mind the question, it’s not meant in a bad way, it’s pure curiosity and surprise: do you have a high-level, high-paying position and/or a family (kids)? Meaning, critical things that are negatively affected by the things you might simply not do?


no i dont, and you're correct that these things are related. im not saying that my way of life is good, quite the opposite in fact.


Thank you for the reply, it's not really about right or wrong, it's just different. I guess in one way or another you will find yourself at the situation where you have too much to remember, and you might open a new text file.


There was a good discussion a few months ago about the high attrition/ low retention rates of todo apps:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28010716

As usual, YMMV, but it’s certainly a prevalent enough phenomenon to indicate that todo lists aren’t enough for many people.


Interesting. Personally i think i also think it has to do with the nature of those services, it's just too simple in essence, the overhead gets obvious.

People just revert to a simple piece of paper, a txt file, as i did until i for some reason started using the Reminders app in osx/ios - the first actual app that i have used for more than a year. Stupidly simple and a part of the system already so makes sense.




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