From the article I linked: "Recovery from COVID results in very variable immunity to a second infection, and this is reflected in the wide range of anti-spike antibodies in recovered patients," McFadden said. "On the other hand, the immunity from the vaccines (especially the messenger RNA versions) is much more uniform, both in terms of protection from COVID and in anti-spike antibody levels."
"CDC finds immunity from vaccines is more consistent than from infection, but both last at least six months"
"Coronavirus infections can cause severe disease or no symptoms at all, and the CDC found that antibody levels vary widely from one individual to another after an infection. The report also notes that there is no test authorized by the Food and Drug Administration that would enable doctors and the public to reliably measure an individual’s protection from disease. And although higher levels of neutralizing antibodies generally signal higher protection, scientists don’t know precisely what level of antibodies will protect an individual."
Sorry to argue this, Covid vaccine debates are a shitshow i try to avoid now, and will try to avoid until 2025. But i think on this particular point, you're wrong, unless i misunderstood you:
Are you saying that the CDC lied because they said explicitly that the vaccine was more consistent than natural immunity? I'm not sure if natural immunity is consistent, i've read (not on scientific papers sadly) that a first asymptomatic infection from the first strains (until Omicron basically) can leave you without antibodies at all.
But unless you are immunodepressed, vaccine do leave you with antibodies and B and T cells, consistently:
I also have a non peer-reviewed paper from an French ARS, but its not translated and they do have a tendency to remove them, making the link point to nothing.
Now, i've also read that Omicron might leave you with antibody more consistently than older strains. It was recent (likely two weeks ago) and i did not research that at all, because doing my own research (and i mean reading papers, checking authors...) take too much time for me right now.
To be clear: i do think that the mRNA vaccine will be proven be less effective against new strains than good old prophylactic vaccines, and i'm against forcing afraid people to take an mRNA shot (that i also believe to be extremely safe) when prophylactic vaccines are this close to be available. I won't die on this hill though. But you seem to be quite cross with a declaration that i'm pretty sure is true, or was until Omicron. You should assume good faith first.
Sorry to sound cross. I believe I explained my point already, but I'll try to re-iterate in a different way.
The CDC measured antibodies and found more variability with natural immunity, then concluded vaccine immunity is more consistent. This is either a huge scientific mistake or just plain dishonest, as antibody level measurement is not shown to be an accurate way to measure immunity. I provided a link to the FDA saying the exact same thing. The CDC then used this erroneous conclusion as part of their big push that everyone has to get vaccinated. To re-emphasize: there is more to your body's defenses than serum antibodies and you can have zero such antibodies and still be protected: https://www.clinicbarcelona.org/en/news/can-you-be-protected....
In contrast, real-world studies like the Cleveland clinic study came out around the same time and showed that natural immunity is working better in practice with no significant variability, but the CDC just ignored those studies entirely even though they were much higher quality than the ones the CDC were citing.
Finally, when a democrat-run administration speaks, or when someone friendly to that administration from the deep state speaks, the corporate media spend about zero effort researching, questioning, or fact-checking it because they are essentially all allies working together. They instead just blindly repeat the message and weaponize it against dissenters. This, combined with the CDC's many mistakes and/or agenda-driven dishonesty, has resulted in great harm and misinformation in American society and possibly the world at large.
If the CDC had not done these things, there may not have been a vaccine mandate from President Biden that had to be shut down at the supreme court level. There may not be as much of the segregation, discrimination, and vitriol that's going on now. These things matter, and the CDC has very clearly acted as an agency with an agenda and not in the best interests of the people: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/02/01/rep_thoma...!
Note that I'm not talking about immunosuppressed people here. I have done zero research on that group but I assume they are a very tiny part of the population that needs to make special considerations for their health, not just for COVID, but for all diseases.
All this says is that it's effective.