Thanks, your feedback is super helpful! Answering some things I haven't managed to figure out confidently on my own beofre now. Sounds like Google/highwire might be the simplest at this point. Still curious if you have any other recommendations!
Actually, one thing I'm still unclear on how is to supply a book/monograph citation, since google/highwire isn't focused on that (not sure if it's possible with google/highwire). Or do I have to resort to a different format for that? (One like "coins" that might not let me supply all relevant fields? :( )
> We're planning to support `<link>` elements to any supported format — basically a modern replacement for unAPI, which went defunct before CSL could be listed as an option — but CSL wouldn't let you specify a PDF anyway.
That sounds great! The key is still what formats are available -- somehow there aren't any great ones. I wonder if it would make sense for zotero to actually develop one that lets you simply describe what zotero means, and everything.
But sounds like maybe most people wouldn't want to use that anyway, as you say, they want something that will be used by Google and others. (The lack of a suitable standard used by multiple parties, to me reminds me of my thoughts on living in an era of death of internet standardization).
Maybe embedded google/highwire is the best option -- I wonder if zotero docs page could beneficially highlight this, suggest that if you're coming to this from a clean slate and just want the simplest/easiest thing that will work, the google/highwire meta tags are probably a good one. Perhaps with guidance on finding the actual keys in the Google docs, and even linking to the zotero mappings as you've done here!
And the other part that's still not clear to me is what to do on a `list` page -- I understand zotero sometimes can handle being activated on a page listing several articles/citations, and export them all. But I am not sure how to handle that.
(I suspect there are still other things I'd have to spend time reverse engineering, that aren't clear from the pretty sketchy google docs, once I get to the details.. but only one way to find out, I guess! When I've invested time in this before, I've ended up blocked and unable to figure things out. Is there a zotero discussion forum where I'd have a chance of getting questions like this answered from experts?)
Actually, one thing I'm still unclear on how is to supply a book/monograph citation, since google/highwire isn't focused on that (not sure if it's possible with google/highwire). Or do I have to resort to a different format for that? (One like "coins" that might not let me supply all relevant fields? :( )
> We're planning to support `<link>` elements to any supported format — basically a modern replacement for unAPI, which went defunct before CSL could be listed as an option — but CSL wouldn't let you specify a PDF anyway.
That sounds great! The key is still what formats are available -- somehow there aren't any great ones. I wonder if it would make sense for zotero to actually develop one that lets you simply describe what zotero means, and everything.
But sounds like maybe most people wouldn't want to use that anyway, as you say, they want something that will be used by Google and others. (The lack of a suitable standard used by multiple parties, to me reminds me of my thoughts on living in an era of death of internet standardization).
Maybe embedded google/highwire is the best option -- I wonder if zotero docs page could beneficially highlight this, suggest that if you're coming to this from a clean slate and just want the simplest/easiest thing that will work, the google/highwire meta tags are probably a good one. Perhaps with guidance on finding the actual keys in the Google docs, and even linking to the zotero mappings as you've done here!
And the other part that's still not clear to me is what to do on a `list` page -- I understand zotero sometimes can handle being activated on a page listing several articles/citations, and export them all. But I am not sure how to handle that.
(I suspect there are still other things I'd have to spend time reverse engineering, that aren't clear from the pretty sketchy google docs, once I get to the details.. but only one way to find out, I guess! When I've invested time in this before, I've ended up blocked and unable to figure things out. Is there a zotero discussion forum where I'd have a chance of getting questions like this answered from experts?)