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The iPhone is unironically the greatest product in human history. It's the most important piece of belonging in a persons life and it's the last thing they'll give up. They can be one misstep away from homelessness but they still buy a new iPhone. This gives Apple an incredible amount of power. The iPhone has built up a ton of goodwill that extends to everything Apple sells.


That strikes me as a very US-centric point of view.


Very much so, Apple market share:

- US: 51%

- EU: 30%

- Asia: 17%

I suppose that makes sense since it's the main local manufacturer, whereas in Korea that would be Samsung with a whopping share of 65%. Apple would probably be way higher in the US if they didn't make overpriced closed-ecosystem stuff.


> They can be one misstep away from homelessness but they still buy a new iPhone

I strongly suspect they will buy the cheaper and possibly shittier Android. Even though it won't last as long. Those monthly payments are a drag yo.

Look I'm glad you like the iPhone, but to say its the greatest product in all of human history is a touch hyperbolic. Yes its a great bit of engineering, but its not like it singularly went from 0-100 by it's self.

Let us not forget, the only thing innovative on the original iphone was the large touch screen. Everything else was a compromise. The battery, the CPU, the RAM, the ability to run apps, all of them were no where near as good as the nearest rival.

But Apple managed to catch up enough to appear ahead of the curve, and well done to them. But let us not forget that without android, the iPhone would never have advanced. (Dont read this as me being an android fanboi, I have never owned one...)

But to the point, in terms of greatest product, I suspect its probably either modern farming (and infra, so tractors) or something medical.


>Let us not forget, the only thing innovative on the original iphone was the large touch screen

...and a full-featured WebKit browser. That was huge.


I have never seen a homeless person with even a flip phone.

A friend, or actually a homeless acquaintance, of mine was charged with theft of public utilities because he was caught charging his ancient laptop into a city receptical that was put near the street to electrify Christmas lights.

He was one of the original Programmers of Word Star.

He got zero credit on his contributions though.

He ended up homeless even though he was a decent Programmer.

It always bothered me the way San Rafael Cops would harass him seemingly daily.

It can all go to shit very fast.


> The iPhone is unironically the greatest product in human history

Which "products" are you comparing iPhone to that makes you believe it's the greatest product in human history? Granted, human history is not that long in perspective, but I can think of countless of other things that are "greater", so curious what your perspective is on this.


lol, I think plumbing is the greatest product in the human history. It prevents us from getting sick and die, which is way more important than a slightly better mobile phone.


"It's the most important piece of belonging in a persons life"

I'm a long term Apple user and but I think this is rather overstating things - do people really feel so strongly attached to what is, after all, a manufacturer of rather nifty gadgets, not a way of life.


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