absolutely and I am well aware of this, but it's also one of the richest cities in one of the richest states and it's crazy to see how bad it is to live there.

Lots of people love living in SF. Everyone is different.

Yeah like in every other place in the world, only in those places it's a lot safer and cleaner and cheaper to live :)

It's true that San Francisco is not representative of the US as a whole - it has only half the murder rate of the US as a whole. That's still 5x that in other developed countries though.

One would have to be insane to factor in the murder rate when deciding whether or not to live in the US.

Crime and general safety aren't valid factors for deciding where to live? Interesting, why not?

Living in the US makes sense for me now but if I were to have kids do I want to subject them to the active shooter drills that go along with the excessive murder rates?

We shrug our shoulders at the shootings in our neighbourhoods but there is an impact on quality of life.

Not really, one day coming back from work somebody got shot on the next car in the bart train i was on :)