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you are a 8 hour old account making comments that add absolutely nothing to the conversation other than snark, it would be weird to not be flagged by everyone.


Why?


It's a forum dedicated pretty much entirely to doxxing, swatting, stalking and harrassment. It's also where the Christchurch New Zealand mass shooter's live stream and manifesto were hosted.


He streamed on Facebook... The stream and manifesto I saw on other sites... not kiwifarms unique... What else...


Doxxing, yes. But any discussion about harassing people will get you banned.


Why doxx someone unless you are implying a threat of harassment against them?


Why get a website's ddos protection removed unless you're planning on ddosing it?


Cloudflare doesn't just offer DDoS protection, though.

Websites like Kiwifarms play a cat and mouse game with hosting providers, who typically don't want to host them. Cloudflare's other services make it easier to conceal which hosting provider is involved, making it harder to (legally!) pressure them. DDoS isn't the only way to take a site down.


So you've verified the person in the screenshot saying they've arranged for bombs to be planted has been banned?


Yes, the post was quickly removed but screenshots only take a moment.


"Here's the personal info on this person that we all hate and constantly talk shit about. It includes their address and contact information. We're totally putting this out here for innocent reasons. We trust you guys won't go harass these people now because that's against our rules!"


Whatever people do by themselves is their own business.


This is nonsense. No man is an island. You are effectively saying that fame and peer pressure don't exist.

There's obvious motivations to take things "just one step further" with a community that eggs such behaviors on.

And that's true from a legal perspective as well. Tons of law deals with people who were not the individual to did the criminal deed, but instead offered the opportunity to do it or encouraged it.

We don't live in some libertarian fantasy where every individual operates wholly separate from one another. It's just not how we as a species are wired.


So just making sure I understand you correctly here.. You think that nobody is entitled to privacy or their own opinions unless certain other people approve?


swatting, stalking and harassment are banned on the site and always have been (look, don't touch) and there is not a single bit of evidence that the mass shooter you speak of even knew KF existed. You're thinking about mainstream social media.. That's where he streamed the shooting from.


Why do you say the forum itself is "dedicated" to those things?

How "hosting" someone posted makes them responsible considering section 230 and the 1st A?


"It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter."


It's obviously not the only place they was hosted, or the place they were originally posted (I think the manifesto originated from 4chan and the stream would have been Twitch or YT or some other live-streaming platform - no idea which).


Used for meatspace attacks on people they didn't like. It had transitioned to the "sticks and stones" stage.


What is your evidence for that?



cloudflare’s servers were hosting and redistributing abusive material and private information non-consensually leading to suicides?

KF is still on the internet, they’re free to handle their own traffic and find a cdn willing to take their (apparently blatantly neonazi named) operating company’s money


Kiwifarms is a site that is implicated in several deaths, several swattings, and had knowingly hosted videos of, for example, the Christchurch shooting.

It is a hotbed for stochastic terrorism. It should be welcome to exist online, but Cloudflare providing it protection undermines Cloudflare's own reputation.


So did liveleak.

>a site that is implicated in several deaths

Youtube

>several swattings

Twitch


Repeating lies doesn't make lies true.

Yes, KF hosted videos of the Christchurch shooting, as well as many others. That's unrelated to your assertion the site, which is of many thousands of people, are "implicated in several deaths". It is not. Nor is it a participant in swattings.

If there were a shred of credible evidence of those things, then you should be communicating with the FBI or any law enforcement agency you're able to engage with.

I hope KF's owner sues the absolute crap out of the media outlets and any personal not hiding behind a nym for defamation, as I think this level of speech has risen to it.


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London Ontario police department said that Keffals was the target of swatting. Keffals was doxxed by KF, and the site has a whole long thread on her. I doubt anyone was stupid enough to type out, "let's harass her!" But if you can't connect the dots here you've got your head in the sand.


>and the site has a whole long thread on her

The thread looked to be 90% Twitter screenshots and clips from Keffals stream... All public information. Compiled in a creepy way, sure.


> London Ontario police department said that Keffals was the target of swatting. Xcel energy in Colorado turned off people's thermostats recently. There was an article about it on KF. Are they related?

> Keffals was doxxed by KF, and the site has a whole long thread on her. KF republished information he posted online. Aggregating public content isn't doxxing as it's typically defined, which is people who are actually trying to maintain privacy.

>I doubt anyone was stupid enough to type out, "let's harass her!" But if you can't connect the dots here you've got your head in the sand.

And yet, "anyone" would need to, to actually be implicated.

I don't suppose facts, like actually interacting with any of the zoo-fauna being documented on the Farm, was incontrovertibly prohibited and would result in an instant ban?

It's easy to connect "dots in your head" when there's already a conclusion you've reached.


well the shooter was wearing a shirt that said "kiwifarms sent me". He also left a sworn testimony at the scene of the crime that said "i'm doing this because of kiwifarms"


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I've heard people claim this, but I've never seen any evidence which supports it. I've read threads on the forums there, and have never seen anyone trying to get anyone else to commit suicide. In fact, interacting or even promoting interacting with people whose actions are catalogued and talked about on the site, is heavily dissuaded.

Do you actually have any evidence to the contrary?




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