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All of the Google employees I've met have been incredibly vocal about security and privacy, really considerate about how technology should serve us, as well as being some of the kindest engineers I've ever met. I can't really square the HN attitude of Google being evil with my experience.


Some of them were kind enough to speak out internally about Google's terrible privacy settings, after Google was caught still tracking user location for users who had followed Google's advice on how to turn off location tracking.

>"The current UI feels like it is designed to make things possible, yet difficult enough that people won’t figure it out."

"Some people (including even Googlers) don’t know that there is a global switch and a per-device switch."

"Indeed we aren’t very good at explaining this to users. Add me to the list of Googlers who didn’t understand how this worked and was surprised when I read the article ... we shipped a UI that confuses users."

"I agree with the article. Location off should mean location off, not except for this case or that case."

"Speaking as a user, WTF?" another employee said, in additional documentation obtained by the Arizona Mirror. "More specifically I *thought* I had location tracking turned off on my phone. So our messaging around this is enough to confuse a privacy focused (Google software engineer). That’s not good."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/unredacted-suit-...

However, the engineers at Google aren't in charge.


How does Google make money? Apple’s value proposition is very simple. I give Apple money and they give me goods and services.




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