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> You can be as independent as you want if you don't care about getting paid. If you want to run a small web site with handwritten HTML hosted on a server in your house that gets a few hundred visitors a month, you can still do that.

I used to agree with you, but watching Kiwi Farms get cut off from the internet has been pretty sobering.



It's not big news anymore but Kiwi Farms is back online

> On September 6, 2022, The Daily Dot confirmed that VanwaTech was providing content delivery network services to the site, hence bringing it back online.[60][61] Other websites running on VanwaTech infrastructure experienced availability problems as a result, including The Daily Stormer and 8chan.[62]

Also keep in mind that Kiwi Farms was only blocked because of the massive backlash Cloudflare received. If your site only gets a few hundred visitors a month, you're not going to get this backlash.

(Not to mention, porn is considered much more acceptable than doxxing and targeted threats, relatively speaking)


The owner had their domain name, CDN/ddos protection, post box, personal phone number, legal aid, and likely other services canceled. All within a week.

They now are struggling against a constant stream of DDoS and targeted hacks due to a lack of protection previously provided by CloudFlare.


They got taken down again a few days after that, although they've occasionally been back up since. I don't think of them as a big site, although I could be wrong.


A site for organizing harassment campaigns to drive innocent people to suicide is an obvious exception, no? If you go around making trouble, you shouldn’t be surprised when trouble finds you.


It isn't. Just lurking it for an hour I can see out of site contact has basically always been banned.


they've also never been found in violation of united states law and they've never lost any out of several civil cases. you would think that if the newspapers were telling the truth about what happens on there they would have been in trouble by now.




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