Yeah that’s not true anymore. You can have broadband without a landline from most providers now. We have internet from BT over a normal telephone cable but don’t have phone service, it was an optional extra.

> even if you don't or will never use it

But if your VDSL signal is coming down the landline then you _are_ using it. At least that's what I told myself to try to feel better about it (FTTP now!)

This used to be the case, but these days if you’re in a fibre area or area with BT’s widely available FTTC offering, BT will happily sell you a “no landline” deal on their website.

Incidentally their landlines on fibre are basically VoIP phones with a battery backup.

Same with most other fibre providers, like Vodafone.

At least in London there's a few others like: - Hyperopic - Comunity fibre - g.network

I'm sure there are more

Things seem to be changing. We're with BT and would have had to pay a lot extra for a phone line.

I am with Vodafone and the standard broadband fee includes the landline.

But yes, there is still always a landline required and thus has to be priced in somehow.

Now they have deployed full fibre so I could ditch everything and move to that but that would be more expensive...

I'm with Vodafone too but I didn't need a line rental, I wonder if they've changed their policy as I only got mine a couple years ago.

I've been with Vodafone for 10 months now. Wanted to have broadband and two mobile lines. Was forced to get the landline in the package. I just never plugged any phone to the wire.

Here too in Spain though on pretty much all providers (mine is orange) though it's not really a real landline but VOIP.

I keep mine disconnected because all I get on it is spam.