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> only restricting that freedom where absolutely necessary

I used to believe this as well. I was thaught a lesson... In fact, now I understand that liberals, when given the power, will corrupt into totalitarism in a few months.




What made you understand that?


Corona and the way how the left/right have handled it. Before corona, I used to vote leftish. Now, I no longer vote.


Can you give some examples of that because I didn't get your point?


For example outright confiscation of wealth above $100m is quite a popular sentiment amongst liberals right now


The original claim was:

> liberals, when given the power, will corrupt into totalitarism in a few months.

Is your complaint an actual example of that? I've never actually heard the argument - I've heard "billionaires should not exist", but never "we should have a 100% tax on those making more than $100m", so I don't know if the claim you're making is as popular as you're making it out to be, nor do I believe is it an example of totalitarianism.

I also don't see actual examples of liberal governments doing that. People say lots of crazy stuff online, but "liberals say the darndest thing" is not the claim here.


> nor do I believe is it an example of totalitarianism

These conversations never go anywhere. The battlelines are already drawn. It just becomes a semantic debate around loosely defined terms like totalitarianism.


Yeah, fair enough. It's become synonymous with "something I don't like".


Agreed with you on "modern liberalism" devolving into totalitarianism. "Classical liberalism" doesn't allow for that though. In practice, I don't think anyone in the US follows the latter strictly enough for prevent the same decay anyway though.


You might find "Why Liberalism Failed" by Patrick Deneen interesting if you haven't read it already. He argues that modern liberalism is the inevitable successor to classical liberalism.




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