The funny thing is that it's _not_ more parentheses, roughly, than one would expect to find in any Algol/C-inspired language, like C# or JavaScript.
This tired trope needs to die. Yes, there are more parentheses, because lisp also uses parentheses where other languages use [] or {} or ;.
The real thing is that people from C-like languages are used to seeing different block markers for different constructs. It takes effort to read Lisp coming from other languages, because those other languages have a richer symbol vocabulary. Learning to read code without those symbols is like reading English where all punctuation has been replaced with a single space. Sure you ll get there eventually but it s a very cheap straw man argument to pretend that the only complaint people have about Lisps is the positioning of the parentheses.
Not a lisp apologist haha, but I think Clojure tries to use fewer smooth parens “()” in general. Square parens “[]” and curly parens “{}” are used to help with things like variable declarations and stuff like data structures.
I recently started using Clojure and I’ve used languages like C#, JavaScript, and Python a lot. My two cents is that a Clojure-like language should try to embrace the aesthetics of a white-space language like Python, but use the parens as clues for scopes or blocks. So much could be done with formatting rules that just make parens easier to scan without some extra IDE highlighting or something.
The best part of parens is that you can try to pick a consistent format, but ya know that sometimes doesn’t happen because everybody likes to use parens differently lol.
This tired trope needs to die. Yes, there are more parentheses, because lisp also uses parentheses where other languages use [] or {} or ;.
The real thing is that people from C-like languages are used to seeing different block markers for different constructs. It takes effort to read Lisp coming from other languages, because those other languages have a richer symbol vocabulary. Learning to read code without those symbols is like reading English where all punctuation has been replaced with a single space. Sure you ll get there eventually but it s a very cheap straw man argument to pretend that the only complaint people have about Lisps is the positioning of the parentheses.