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I have a feeling a lot of these people are Bitcoin maximalist. They want depositors to suffer so that they feel vindicated for their faith in Bitcoin.



In defense of Bitcoin, it would have taken a decade to process the $40 billion of withdrawals from SVB on the blockchain, so a bank run couldn't have happened.


hmm, i saw somewhere that svb had some 37000 depositors

there's no relevant limit to the amount of money in a bitcoin transaction, so this could have been one transaction with 37000 outputs, or 37000 transactions one output, or 370 transactions with 100 outputs, or whatever

the latest block in the bitcoin blockchain is block 780'537 https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/780537 containing 1788 transactions, totaling 4489.31 bitcoin, which is currently about 98 million dollars; the block weighs 1847 kilobytes

most of these transactions had 2 outputs, though many had more (7, 8, 9, 20) and a few had only 1. if we estimate this block as containing 3700 outputs we wouldn't be far wrong. in that case it would take 10 blocks (a little under two hours) to process all 37000 withdrawals

processing 200 billion dollars of transactions at the rate that money was being transferred in this block would take 2000 blocks, almost two weeks, because the average transaction size in this block was much smaller than svb's average account size; this is still less than a decade

consider transaction a400f39693ab997c162156a09599557b26c7a6d1efa711c49f4ccf5b12505b66 https://btcscan.org/tx/a400f39693ab997c162156a09599557b26c7a... with 21 outputs. this transaction is 837 bytes, so it's a little smaller than average for this block despite its large number of outputs; an 1837-kilobyte block consisting only of such transactions would contain 2206 transactions, paying out to 46326 different addresses

so in fact the bitcoin blockchain could have processed all of svb's withdrawals in a single block

the price of bitcoin would have to go up quite a bit for that to happen; bitcoin's market cap is currently only 389 billion dollars, so this one piddly bank would have been more than half of it, and transferring such a large amount of bitcoin around at once would likely freak people out enough to blow the whole system up

but there's no technical reason in the bitcoin blockchain that dissolving such a bank would be impossible or even difficult

there have been any number of bank runs in bitcoin already, unfortunately


For the record, no Bitcoin maxi I'ever ever met has asked to be bailed out for anything.


Exactly. They are very bitter at the thought of depositors (people who entrusted the U.S. banking system) getting bailed out.


Maybe ideologically, but if you're still up on the inflation hedge narrative, I suppose you just let it happen.


Nah they just don't want their taxes to pay for this stuff (tho it seems like they won't, I guess?!)


I for one just don't like to see the rules change every time the rich need a little help.


If the treasury allowed a bank run to wipe out depositors, every single business would be transferring funds out of their regional bank Monday morning.


And now they won't?


no, they aren't at risk that their deposits will evaporate because they were late to the bank run any more


so why would they care if a bank run happens or not? seems like a pretty good time to make adjustments for the long term.


exactly, the idea is for depositors not to care if a bank run happens or not, because the way that bank runs happen is that depositors worry that a bank run will happen


well we will see what happens over the next couple weeks. no prediction we make here is going to change it.


well, i kind of hope you're right about that

it's going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks




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