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> Come on, 30 days notice is a walk in the park

Sure, maybe in a small business or startup, and even then I'd content not quite as easy as all that.

When you're dealing with anything larger, say involving multiple teams, organisations, and priorities, 30 days is an insanely short shrift to look at figuring out what your actual route forwards is (and if you're provisioning something new, making sure you're allowed to and have any relevant sign-offs etc.)

This particular situation with Docker doesn't affect us, but if it did this would have some serious knock on implications. The teams in my org are already busy with things that need to GA by certain dates or there will be financial implications. It's not "tire fire" but in most cases it's solid "don't waste time" territory. There's always flex in the schedule, but the closer to a GA date you get the more rigid the schedule has to be.



If you're unable to take on a task that has a 30 day deadline in your org, regardless of size, you're experiencing a good amount of bloat.


You're absolutely right! But bloat is also incredibly common, especially when "task" in this case might describe "multi-team project." Can it get done in 30 days? Of course! Might you already have dozens of high-priority projects to deliver in the next 30 days with stakeholders screaming at you every day for updates? Absolutely!


You should read The Phoenix Project to understand that "have dozens of high-priority projects to deliver in the next 30 days" is a consequence of poor management, not a given even for large organizations.


I've read TPP. What I'm saying is, most companies are Parts Unlimited before their awakening and a lot of us are Brent. I think the reason that book resonated so well the dysfunction described there is a lived reality for most IT workers.


Fair, but I’m also fair to call that out, I think!

And I do try to do less Brent things, I think there was a degree of amnesty given to Brent that we can improve on. We can all be more Bill, even if we’re still SMEs.

Something something managing up, or getting the kinds of Bill jobs to make the changes.


> Sure, maybe in a small business or startup, and even then I'd content not quite as easy as all that.

Not enough time even in this case; for some (apathetic) people, 30 days isn't actually 30 days.

Every now and then I'll come across the kind of small org where the one person (euphemistically and sarcastically) referred to as SRE only checks email once a month because they've "evolved beyond primative tech" or wtf ever, then get mad about it like it was a conspiracy rather than self-sabotage.

90 days minimum for overt assaults on stuff that some ppl may require to keep their doors open. This kind of shit is enough to possibly mess with people's livelyhoods in edge cases. Personally I never used Docker. I'm kinda paranoid so "free" stuff not backed by some kind of legal guarantee like open source licensing always seems sorta shady.


At this size you should have a local registry that acts as a transparent cache. If you don't, then get one right now. What happens if Docker's servers are down for whatever reason? Does your whole process break?


Sorry, didn't mean to imply that it is actually affecting us or even a concern. It isn't. I was just calling out that 30 days isn't just "simple" as the parent poster was asserting.




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