They were supposed to have all of the billing framework figured out for monthly subscription model. The exact pricing could have been a variable set when the changes pushed into production.
30 days is ample notice to Apollo's users.
Apollo has had since April to figure out how to make a monthly subscription work, on a technical level. Now... having done nothing smart in the meantime, are left with very little time to make the changes. That is 100% on Apollo.
You shift the blame like there’s no tomorrow. At this point you either work for them, or are getting paid exorbitant amounts of money to defend them. That’s the only reasonable explanation for why you’d be pushing the blame so hard.
Even if he had a full system set up in a month and a half (a fairly tight deadline), 32 days is an unreasonably short amount of time to make any sort of material change to your terms, let alone raising the cost exorbitantly.
Hilariously, your first comment wishes people would pledge to pay for Apollo. How we got from there to… this bullshit is beyond me. At least it only took a few hours to show your true colors.
Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it not true.
Your "32 days" timeline you keep going on about is false no matter what way you look at it.
Apollo has known since April API pricing was coming, and there was no way their existing "pay once, use it forever" or even the $12.99 per year model was going to be sustainable - particularly given how many free users they float monthly.
Not knowing the exact fee in advance is completely irrelevant. The infrastructure needed to be built to support a monthly subscription model, freemium models, or whatever they needed to do to pivot and remain in business.
100% of the reason people use Apollo is because of the data and community Reddit has built. Apollo basically leached off that data, and made a profit while doing so. Any sound business operator would understand and plan for risks that endanger their business. Apollo failed to take action in a timely manner, and failed to mitigate risks to it's business.
Now they're being asked to pay for the API access that makes Apollo's business possible - and even if the API fees were 1/4 of the proposed amount, Apollo was going to need to change their model. That is the point you, and many others seem to be missing - Apollo was not going to survive paying anything for API access - Apollo had no plan.
I cannot make it any more clear - Apollo failed to plan for, and mitigate risks and failed to take corrective actions in time to save their business.
Apollo was run like a hobby side-project - not a business.
> Apollo was run like a hobby side-project - not a business.
Not everything has to be run like a business, you understand that right? You’re acting like this is a big when it’s a feature.
This is a project run by a single person. And has been, since its creation. On purpose. You clearly don’t like that for whatever idiotic reason and your entire premise hinges on the fact that you think every single project in the world needs to be run like a perfect megacorp. Guess what? The world doesn’t work like that.
The rest of your BS has already been debunked. Multiple times. By multiple people. You restating it continues to be just that, regardless how many times you insist on it.
If you want to work for Reddit so badly, try applying for a job. I’m sure they’ll appreciate your obvious shilling for no discernible reason.
> Not everything has to be run like a business, you understand that right?
Sure, that is reasonable. But then the victim card cannot be played when the business fails to act accordingly, no?
> The rest of your BS has already been debunked
Besides your insistence on alternative facts, I do not see anything "debunking" anything I have written. Again, just because you don't agree does not make it not true.
> If you want to work for Reddit so badly, try applying for a job.
Generally, you will be better off attacking someone's argument instead of their motivations.
> But then the victim card cannot be played when the business fails to act accordingly, no?
What business?
It’s not a fucking business. Stop insisting it is. We literally just went over this.
> Besides your insistence on alternative facts, I do not see anything "debunking" anything I have written. Again, just because you don't agree does not make it not true.
The fact that half of your comments have been flagged and downvoted to death, and that multiple people have pointed out your straight up lies should tell you plenty about who is dealing in “alternative facts”.
> Generally, you will be better off attacking someone's argument instead of their motivations.
Yeah that hasn’t seemed to work with you for the past half day, so I don’t understand why you would expect people to keep trying when you clearly don’t bother with things like “taking things to heart”, “having a discussion in good faith”… or really “reading”.
Next time, stick to actual facts and don’t pretend everything is a business that needs to be maximally efficient.
> It’s not a fucking business. Stop insisting it is.
Apollo was/is a business, handles hundreds of thousands of dollars annually, and has a huge customer base. We cannot make up definitions and then insist others agree.
> We literally just went over this.
You mean, you did. Sorry to not play into your fantasy universe - out here in the real world, shouting something louder doesn't make it true.
> The fact that half of your comments have been flagged and downvoted to death
You make the mistake of placing stock in whatever button people click on a website - usually based on emotion, but not always. Either way, Internet Points are not real...
You may not like the facts - but that's why they are facts. They do not change even if you hate them. Calm down, re-read the original posts, and then we can discuss things more civilly.
30 days is ample notice to Apollo's users.
Apollo has had since April to figure out how to make a monthly subscription work, on a technical level. Now... having done nothing smart in the meantime, are left with very little time to make the changes. That is 100% on Apollo.