I texted my business partner a link to the story yesterday about Google Domains getting sold off with the comment: "I'm so glad we decided to go with AWS over GCP".
A big part of selecting a cloud service provider is trust. You have to trust that you can build your stuff on top of theirs and they aren't going to pull the rug out from under you. Right now I don't know how anyone picking a cloud service provider can confidently go with GCP, and the only ones I see moving to GCP are those that get massive discounts for doing so.
I'm making a bet that in 10 years, GCP will be no more and most likely sucked up by either Azure of AWS.
I don’t think Google can divest GCP without losing a fatal amount of face. It would cause some very awkward questions to be asked such as: is Google’s valuation justified if they fail so abjectly at what is supposed to be their core competence?
On the other hand, from the beginning it has never felt like they wanted to be in the cloud services business and GCP has only ever existed for the aforementioned face saving reasons. It has just never fit with their company culture of: NIH all the tech, have users not customers, and place what’s best for managers’ careers above what’s best for the company.
They’re also disabling io_uring in some of their public facing services, chromebooks, etc. The issue is they run a bunch of kernels that are years old, which were missing security backports.
There has been one io_uring CVE for the linux 6.x series. That’s worse than zero, but local linux kernel exploits are pretty common.
Anyway, this sort of rug pulling for stuff like GKE makes it clear they’re not willing to stand by already-released products.
Edit: Also, it’s worth pointing out that the kernels for chromebooks and gke are single-tenant, so, if disabling io_uring really is necessary, it should be a customer controlled knob.
If people are running kernel exploits on your laptop / server containers, you’re probably already screwed.
I remember when the news broke a few days ago people were going "this is only the consumer product, Google Cloud won't be affected, Google is very serious about it".
Any bets on how long until Google Cloud is fully deprecated? If I was a customer I'd be very nervous right about now.
Organizationally, domains was not part of cloud. It's part of shopping which is closer to ads and search. I don't see the correlation between this and turning down cloud.
Seriously, customers don’t care about the internal nuance of how things are organized. They care that a very foundational piece of a cloud service provider will suddenly be not available.
Seriously. Comments like the one to which you responded are absolutely endemic on this site. Like half the people here are incapable of viewing anything as a non-expert.
Aren’t the people that use GCP the voices that you should listen to? The 2-back comment is basically hearsay while the 3-back is from a presumed GCP customer. I also use GCP and this stings a little, but I’ve never otherwise seen a single component in GCP deprecated, which is why I continue to use GCP.
GCP customer here as well and while this does make me a bit wary, I'm not too ruffled yet. I really love their cloud console UI and how they organize things and have been nothing but happy with their cloud services. Hoping it stays that way!
> Organizationally, domains was not part of cloud. It's part of shopping which is closer to ads and search. I don't see the correlation between this and turning down cloud.
It seems like you're saying that since Cloud Domains relies on Google Domains which wasn't organizationally part of GCP (even though there's no way a user would have known that) it is acceptable to shut down Cloud Domains when Google Domains is shut down and that doesn't mean that google isn't committed to supporting GCP.
This argument is just completely baffling to me.
If it turns out that Compute Engine relies on some internal services that aren't organizationally part of GCP does that mean it's fine for google to shut down Compute Engine as well?
Google is more and more defined by how willing they are to help their own bottom line short-term by harming their customers. While it is more and more an industry trend, Google is a leader in kneecapping those foolish enough to have a dependency on it.
Right -- my point is that, despite SimpleDB being an ancient and objectively awful service that's been deprecated for ages, it still hasn't been discontinued.
> Would it shock you to learn that SDB is still running and working for a handful of customers?
DeepLens, Alexa for Business, OpsWorks for Chef, OpsWorks for Puppet, Import/Export jobs, Sumerian, DataPipeline, Elastic Inference, Amazon WorkLink, and Lumberyard.
Setting aside nitpicking if some of these are services or features, if they belong or not under the AWS umbrella and just accepti g it at face value: how many aws services are out there and what % of them do these represent?
If it’s not a reflection of GCP it’s potentially a reflection of Google Workspaces. Why domains and workspaces wouldn’t be connected is beyond strange.
It’s basic internet infrastructure and they’re not going to own a piece of it, even to automate customer onboarding.
I can’t imagine counting on google for anything anymore. And they’re inexplicably weird in this regard.
Domains and Workspaces are worse than seperate. Domains is treated as a third party retailer of Workspace accounts. I had to abandon a Workspace because I bought it through Domains and their support couldn't fix an access issue, and Woorkspace support said Domains had to do it cause they sold it...
Our startup is using GCP exclusively but after this (we have our domains with them), we're debating wether diversify our infra now or "trust" GCP won't go away anytime soon.
Lol. Run for a other cloud provider. AWS or Azure are serious about their customers.
GCP is part toy, part science experiment. I am expecting it to be discontinued in the near future. I don't know any medium or large business that puts all their eggs in the GCP basket - or if they do they usually have some sort of deal directly with Google.
The only future I see for GCP is if they lean heavily into the "pure IaaS + K8s" position, and compete aggressively on price.
If customers start to run their own equivalent of SageMaker (or whatever BS the Azure equivalent is) on self-managed GCP clusters for a fraction of the price, cloud competition could finally get interesting.
A big part of selecting a cloud service provider is trust. You have to trust that you can build your stuff on top of theirs and they aren't going to pull the rug out from under you. Right now I don't know how anyone picking a cloud service provider can confidently go with GCP, and the only ones I see moving to GCP are those that get massive discounts for doing so.
I'm making a bet that in 10 years, GCP will be no more and most likely sucked up by either Azure of AWS.