Having hired dozens of developers in Berlin over the last 10 years, I can confirm that these numbers look awfully low, at least for any major city in Germany. Munich should be even higher, Hamburg comparable to Berlin. 80k max is maybe for a mid level dev, surely not for anyone considered senior. Or I always overpaid, but then salaries should be related to the contribution to the overall success, not on the average of whatever other companies, so no hard feelings here.
Places like HN and r/CScareerquestionsEU tend to mostly attract career focused SW engineers who are always chasing to maximize compensation, interviewing, job hopping, sharpening their skills, learning new languages, having side projects, applying mostly at FANGs and product focused start-ups, etc. so it's normal for them to see high wages wherever they look, but when I look at my real world friends who aren't in these communities, nor are they too deep into chasing compensation or learning new tech, and are working at no-name companies, their wages are indeed quite low.
There's definitely different bubbles people live in, and this can skew your perspective either way, but I feel like HN definitely does not represent the average, but more the upper percentile.
Hamburg recently, I was offered 2K less than the polite minimum in the range I had to suggest (the company never suggested any range to begin with, should have been a warning). Offer was 75K, I was very unimpressed, TBH. Huge company.
