That's a pretty short list. I would argue the list should start 7 years ago with AMP.

AMP was Google's Search team, not Chrome team, and the Chrome team wasn't very happy about it.

> * #WebEnvironmentIntegrity a.k.a. #DRM for whole websites would hurt the web, #opensource browsers and OSes

What really blew my mind was how out of touch the dev guiding the WEI proposal is, in relation to how dangerous this implementation would be.

I'm an economist -- I focus on incentives.

What I see of the one bad^H^H^H clueless apple is that their incentive with WEI aligns with a monopolist's goal to vertically and horizontally integrate.

Google has proven, time and again, that their "don't be evil" mantra is long out of sync with what a layperson would feel is evil. Hence, it makes sense to expect they will behave as any other company.

Perhaps one thinks WEI will make the web "better" with more targeted ads. This is in err, since adverts make a worse experience overall.

You are moving your own goalposts. You stated that you couldn't believe how out of touch a single dev was. Now you are claiming that Google as a company is acting in a certain way. And yet the feedback from higher ranking members of the Chrome/Blink team has been negative towards this proposal.

> You stated that you couldn't believe how out of touch a single dev was. Now you are claiming that Google as a company is acting in a certain way.

To the contrary. I stated this:

>> What I see of the one bad^H^H^H clueless apple is that their incentive with WEI aligns with a monopolist's goal to vertically and horizontally integrate.

Clearly, I see that the dev is out of touch with reality in a way that benefits Google's short-term profits without benefiting society at large, and my comment explains such at a higher level of discourse.

> And yet the feedback from higher ranking members of the Chrome/Blink team has been negative towards this proposal.

And thank all higher powers for your identified reasonability of more experienced, understanding devs working against their employer's short-term interests by publicly holding back the shit-storm that WEI would unleash.

What did Yoav say? The blink-dev thread is full of crucial nuggets like:

> In order to start even an origin trial in Chrome, this proposal would need approval from API owners like myself, and the current state of the proposal is not something I'd personally approve due to many of the concerns being raised.

... but only if you look for them.

I don't think the dev's name was Yoav.

Need to mention WebUSB[1] too since it's only implemented and forced on Chromium.

[1]: https://caniuse.com/webusb

WebUSB is a hostile move? It's pretty awesome tbh.

Exactly. I flashed my keyboard's firmware in a browser and it blew my mind.

WebUSB is an open standard. Other browsers will eventually support it. Is Google supposed to wait around until Mozilla and Apple decide to do the work before they are allowed to release a feature? Its actually good that Google implements standards quickly because it puts pressure on the other vendors to do so as well.