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> Overall, it just sounds like they plan on making problems and then bringing them to me to resolve. Which, sure, would require 'managing'.

Yeah…again, I’m trying to communicate respectfully, but I really think these perspectives aren’t fit for being responsible for others’ employment.



You're clearly a very serious person. It might help you to be aware that some other people take things, in general, a little lightly.

Out of context guidance consisting of little faux-wise aphorisms like that of the OP is just kind of inherently amusing, especially when offered earnestly, precisely because it is open to misinterpretation - and my suggestion that it could be interpreted as advice to keep your manager apprised of who's currently on your enemies list was meant to illustrate that risk.

As putative advice to senior engineers for how to conduct themselves, it struck me as something which some toxic engineers might take as endorsing their superior attitude. That makes it bad advice, and that's why I'm mocking it.

But how I react to the idea of this sort of thing being offered as career advice, respectfully, tells you absolutely nothing about how I conduct myself in my professional role.


> and my suggestion that it could be interpreted as advice to keep your manager apprised of who's currently on your enemies list was meant to illustrate that risk.

Yeah....again....not an enemies list.

> As putative advice to senior engineers for how to conduct themselves, it struck me as something which some toxic engineers might take as endorsing their superior attitude. That makes it bad advice, and that's why I'm mocking it.

Yeah...again...this perception is a toxic _manager_ trait.

> But how I react to the idea of this sort of thing being offered as career advice, respectfully, tells you absolutely nothing about how I conduct myself in my professional role.

We can disagree, that's fine. Thankfully you don't work in my organization, so your opinion is of 0 value to me. I had (obviously incorrectly) hoped some sane feedback might make you reevaluate your behavior, but alas stubbornness prevails. Hopefully your reports can manage working with you effectively.


Hopefully jameshart's reports have mentors and are able to manage up more successfully than your feedback.




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