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Does anyone use Matrix/Element for a serious workplace, instead of something like Slack?


I work at a 25 person startup and we've been using Element as our main chat platform for the past 6 months (paid hosting), however we're now in the process of migrating away. I really wanted to like it because it supports good encryption and is open source, but unfortunately it's just too buggy. The main pain points are:

- Stuck notifications [1]

- Being unable to decrypt messages (from certain users sending from certain devices; some people can read them, others can't)

- No proper notifications for old threads

- Various GUI instability bugs: chats that are suddenly empty, text suddenly randomly overlaid on other text, randomly missing scroll bars, etc.

1: https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/24392


We use Matrix (mostly via Element) at Mozilla alongside Slack. It's mainly public stuff on Matrix, and the usage pattern varies between teams: some teams are mainly Slack and barely pay attention to Matrix rooms, other teams (like mine) kick and scream if they're forced to use Slack for anything but internal corporate purposes. New hires in such teams tend to assume Slack initially and gradually notice that they get very slow responses on Slack, and then switch mainly over to Matrix to talk to the rest of us.

It's been good to us. Note that our primary comparison point is IRC, not Slack, mainly because of our project roots of openness and widely distributed contributors. So it's a serious workplace, but an atypical one. Encryption has periodically caused problems. Leaving the company and maintaining access to your communication seems to be a bit painful. Search is not great. Threads are tolerable. Inviting outside people in works well. Abuse is vastly more manageable than it was on IRC. Performance is mostly good. Both Element Web and Element on Android are very usable. Notifications are a little wonky, but I don't rely on them much so I can't really gauge whether they're good enough if you do.


> Abuse is vastly more manageable than it was on IRC.

You're comparing a Matrix server operated by someone else (Element) with an IRC network that Mozilla operated themselves. How does your Matrix setup compare to an IRC network operated by a dedicated team like Libera.Chat or OFTC?




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