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Respectfully, I don't know about that. I wouldn't trust it if my life was on the line. I go for walks and bike rides when it's -25C to -30C air temperature (before windchill) and I've had old samsung galaxies and newer pixels both crash if I take them out to take a photo. I presumable due to voltage dip.


This is exactly the reason why I'm sticking with the CAT S6x series phones and willing to put up with mediocre performance/features, as far as smartphones go.

They've been the only ones that don't just turn off in really cold temperatures, even without babying them in warm pockets.

The general ruggedness is also pretty good to amazing, depending on how fragile your previous phones were. For example: it survived a ~10 meter (32ft) drop on rocks, whereas everyone was convinced it was done for.


Do you have one of the newer models with the thermal camera? I was very interested in seeing how well that works.


Yes, currently the S62 Pro. What would you be interested in knowing?

To be honest I first thought it would be a gimmick, but being able to see heat / rough temperature degrees has proven itself quite useful.

But you don't really realize it until you have it available. It's kind of like having another sense available to you.

Random examples of where it was useful:

- finding shitty chargers/electronics which were really hot while doing nothing -> wasted power

- spotting a water leak before it was visible (think cold spot in the middle of the ceiling)

- checking car tire alignment (one side hotter than the other)

- finding buried hot water pipes

- finding where cold air is leaking in during winter

- spotting damp areas

and probably others that I'm forgetting right now


Thank you for tkaing the time to repsond to me and giving me a good breakdown!


Yeah having a newer phone helps.

Once I was stuck with a ridesharing car opened and off in -20C because my old samsung s8 throttled so bad I couldn't even reboot it. It was completely unresponive with the flashlight still on discharging it even faster.

I couldn't leave the car too, being responsible for damages during the rent.

After a bit of time I remembered that to force shut down newer androids you have to hold volume down and power. Why would they not keep it as a long press is beyond me.


To someone that lives in a place where we just had an entire summer of 40°C and higher, -25°C sounds like Antarctica, or Mars. And you do that on a bicycle? Clearly, you must be an alien!


Thanks for the laugh. I send my australian friends photos of snowbanks and iced up hair. The hardest part if having a plan if something goes wrong, e.g. I'm not changing a tire or fixing a chain at that temperature. I've been tempted to wait on a bus at a slow train crossing. At least cold I can layer up with and move. I'd die at +40C.


Actually, an Italian guy is about to start a bike hike to the South Pole. This is the first link I found to a page in English about it https://aminhacorrida.com/en/omar-di-felice-comes-back-to-at...


> -25°C sounds like Antarctica, or Mars

I had that in my hometown in eastern France at 800m altitude, a town a few km away has a record of -41. -15/-20c was almost a yearly occurance when I was a kid


Do people in those areas need phone cases that are insulated to retain heat?


I don't know if those exist. I imagine if you are a linemans or working in the oil field you might have a rugged phone/radio or leave it in the truck cab.




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