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"I’m absolutely tired of these spoiled kids doing shit like this"

I do not support this style of protest, but their reason is something like:

"They are absolutey tired of the spoiled rich (old) people, who continue to fuck up the planet like before and continue to get away with it, with no serious action being done about climate change."




Right, and I’m in neither group. That’s where I get confused, I’m on nobody’s team at the moment, and when I read a story like this I always, always, end up on the side of Louvre, or whatever.


If that is truly the case, then perhaps you need to reassess whether you are genuinely in neither group.

I'm not kidding. This is an asymmetric conflict of the powerless against the powerful. Obviously their methods are going to have to be asymmetric. If you end up siding with the powerful, well, you are taking a side whether you like it or not.


I understand all of that, I really do. I still stand by what I said, partially because I'm describing a reaction that I can only partially control.


I know, that is why I do not support this style of protest. It is venting of frustration, activism for the sake of it - getting the feeling that at least something was done (and being too blind to realize that it is not helping the cause).


I’m absolutely tired of being accused of being the source of all problems, including “fucking up the planet”.

Just look at the world. Look. Only heavy indoctrination may make you interpret the world as I be fucking up the planet. I feel like a German guy who was born during WWI and who is accused of being the source of all problems in the world, squeezed between having to reimburse France for war damages done by my parents (which Germany did until 1991) AND squeezed with the economic recession of 1932 in Germany.

Just leave those paintings alone.


"Just look at the world. Look."

I think I did. And I see many different people, in many different countries, making many creative, but similar excuses to not actually do anything different, if it is only slightly inconvenient.

"Just leave those paintings alone."

And it seems you directed this at me, well did you read the part, where I said I do not support this protest?

Also, where did I or anyone else here directly accuse you of anything?

Or do you consider yourself to be a "spoiled rich old guy"?


You are claiming to not support this while making excuses for them which isn’t much different.


I can also explain to you, why Hitler went down the road he did. Does that make me a Nazi?

I can also explain to you, when a angry dog will bite, does that me make a dog?

My stand is, to make progress and overcome conflicts, one has to understand the other side at least a little.

And in this case, no I am not a climate activist. I do not see much point in activism. But I do see a point, in trying to get people to work together to solve the common problems, like climate change.


I just said I don’t care about your excuses. The world has always been fucked up and had problems and bad people in it. Things like being able to light a Christmas tree as a community are things we do to unite and not have to worry about how shitty the place is for 10 minutes.


"I just said I don’t care about your excuses."

Wrong adress, I am not an activist of any kind.

"Things like being able to light a Christmas tree as a community are things we do to unite and not have to worry about how shitty the place is for 10 minutes."

Did I told you, you may not do this anymore?

"The world has always been fucked up"

I disagree to this. But yes, the human world always had problems. But the problems usually did not go away by themself, but by people working together on solutions.




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