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>If China is unwilling to allow US companies to compete fairly in their digital ecosystem, why the hell should we continue to grant Chinese firms unrestricted access to our market?

Because we are the United States, and we are better than that. We are a society that promotes free trade, freedom of expression, and economic globalization to the ends of the earth.

It's kind of our whole thing.




How many democratic governments have been overthrown with US assistance because it benefited oil or fruit companies?


Good point but it doesn't mean that US doesn't support those things the majority of the time.

The primary motivation of a firefighter doesn't change because they rescue a cat every once in a while.


Not the point, but firefighters actually respond to few fires (presumably better electrical codes or smokers falling asleep with a cigarette). Most of their work is now supplemental EMT, locked houses, cats in trees, etc.

This 2018 report (https://www.statista.com/statistics/376683/number-of-fire-de...) shows some 23 million medical emergencies to 1.5 million fire call responses.


Huh wow, I had no idea.


>How many democratic governments have been overthrown with US assistance because it benefited oil or fruit companies?

This century? None. The civilized world has progressed. Hopefully our Chinese and Russian friends can catch up some day.


How many democratic or non-democratic governments have been overthrown with Chinese assistance this century?


> How many democratic or non-democratic governments have been overthrown with Chinese assistance this century?

None, because we've stopped them (for now) at great personal cost. Unless you count that little tiff in Hong Kong. No biggy.


So do you think the US should also be fine with foreign nations running bot farms spreading fake news / propaganda?


> We promote free trade, freedom of expression, and economic globalization...

...as long as it benefits our mega-corps.

As soon as they can't compete in these spaces, we immediately turn to protectionism, ag-gag laws, etc.

The one sacred cow we have is profit, everything else is weighed on the axis of advancing it.




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