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Carbon capture is so dumb. Just do the effective things like building out massive renewable energy generation like in China and India, phase out coal and oil, improve/install heat pumps, top down changes to phase out the use of plastic and reuse more containers like milk, soda etc like we did in the past, make nuclear plants, come up with cheap, safe lab grown meat etc.


Lab grown meats are a boondoggle and will never happen at scale. https://josepheverettwil.substack.com/p/lab-meat-is-18-trill...


Apparently the meat industry thinks otherwise, hence they're trying to push their poodles to outlaw it. With some success even: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947766


See https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca... for a thorough exploration of why lab grown meat will never happen...

> Humbird likened the process of researching the report to encountering an impenetrable “Wall of No”—his term for the barriers in thermodynamics, cell metabolism, bioreactor design, ingredient costs, facility construction, and other factors that will need to be overcome before cultivated protein can be produced cheaply enough to displace traditional meat.

> “And it’s a fractal no,” he told me. “You see the big no, but every big no is made up of a hundred little nos.”


I'm happy that they are wasting their money then.


It’s growing cells, you can bet your ass it’s going to happen sooner or later. It’s also definitely going to be cheaper than raising a whole cow by a mile.


Bet. $100 if in 5 years you can get a lab grown steak in the supermarket for cheaper than cow steak.

Growing tissues with vasculature is vastly different from cell cultures


It doesn’t necessarily need to have vasculature for a lot of cases. Sausages, nuggets, bologna, any kind of processed meat like product.

For steaks, the timeline is definitely longer than 5 years.


Five years is pretty aggressive, but I feel like 10-20 is realistic. Just in time for those fusion plants to be coming online ;)

> in the supermarket for cheaper than cow steak

OK, but only if we agree to include subsidies and externalized costs in the price.


Bet. $10,000 you won't be able to buy one for the same cost as a regular stake.

I'm happy to put my real name and money in an escrow account to the first person who wants to take the bet against me.




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