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One phone call to whom? Hamas? The conflict is 2 sided. It may pause. But not end. This is very different from Russia invade Ukraine, there is no dispute of the sovereignty in a wider sense. Even china would not say U belong to R. But the hell of P and I, …

There is no easy solution … from camp David to now.



> There is no easy solution … from camp David to now.

Everyone from the Hague to UC Berkeley administrators is learning one hard truth: agreements with some polities in that part of the world and their ambassadors are not worth very much. But if you pretend that they are then it seems like there are easy solutions.


> One phone call to whom? Hamas?

To Israel. The modern state of Israel simply cannot exist without the largesse and political cover the US provides.

> There is no easy solution

Yes and no. End the genocide. End the apartheid. Nuremberg-like trials to deal with war criminals on both sides. Reconstruction of a single state. 750,000 settlers has made a two-state solution impossible.

We've been here before: post-US civil war and post-apartheid South Africa.

There is the idea that the currently oppressed population will rise up in vilence against their former oppressors. History doesn't back up this view. Our modern examples such as Reconstruction showed the opposite: the rise of the KKK and the rise of violence against former slaves by their former oppressors.

Afghanistan has been described as the graveyard of empires. This region may be vying for that title.


Israel existed for decades without US support. No Jews will agree to live under a Muslim majority one state solution, it will inevitably decay into something similar to Lebanon, Syria, or Egypt.


> No Jews will agree to live under a Muslim majority one state solution

Couldn't you say the same about whites in apartheid South Africa?


The situations aren't comparable. Most Israeli citizens are of MENA origin; they are not, as activist wisdom would have it, ambitious Europeans.


It's really not the same thing. Jews have a very long history of being oppressed by Muslims and Christians.


I don’t know that you want to bring South Africa as an example of success. Even the majority is fed up with their government.




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