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The fact that vegetarians and vegans exist isn't a "sampling bias".


i am not denying their existence. I am denying that there's a way forward for combatting climate change in having people unvoluntarily forced to be vegetarians.


This is exactly the sort of "argument" which makes talking with Americans (I'm assuming here, but you sound like an American to me) such an unenjoyable pastime.

This is the level of strawman we show to small children as examples of terrible strawman arguments. I haven't seen anyone in this thread asking for involuntarily forcing people to give up meat. There isn't a single significant politician in the USA or Europe who is talking about forcing people to give up meat.

I can only hope you were deliberately trying to make a shitty argument for some reason, otherwise it seems likely that the BGH, HFC and antibiotics in your diet have addled your brain.

The most radically environmentalist thing people are arguing for is for you to take a modicum of responsibility for the negative impacts of your choices. If you love beef for some reason then just plant a couple of trees when you eat it or do some other actions that offset the carbon.




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