No, it's that you started a massive offtopic generic flamewar tangent on perhaps the single most repeated topic of the last couple years, nothing new or interesting can come of which. That's exactly what we're trying to avoid on HN; we want curious conversation about interesting things, and this is the opposite of that on all counts.
Not that your comment was by any means the worst example of this! But it was guaranteed to spin off into the off-topic flamewar that it did.
Honestly, I didn't realize how fast and far it would go off. Maybe I'm out of touch.
I was actually just wondering if Musk didn't care about Politics and all the political maneuvering was still with the goal of getting to Mars. Space and Politics are like peanut butter and jelly. Hard to separate these subjects.
It's hard to understand why people care so much about someone's personal political opinions.
This is especially prevalent when working in places like Seattle and SF. People ostracizing their coworkers because of wrongthink.
MDS like TDS is real. It's extremely toxic and it needs to stop. People's political beliefs are their own and connecting that to work is a recipe for disaster.
The man in question personally has more wealth than many nations, co-opted one of the most popular American social media networks in the country and is a massive hypocrite when it comes to free speech.
Musk isn't just some guy near your cubicle complaining about Mexican cooks.
He isn't a co-worker. He's a billionaire that can fund entire campaigns.
It is a lot more like if my co-worker was really my boss, and he really cares about my political leanings during a performance review.. Thus I also care about his.
"Metastable deexcitation spectroscopy (MDS) and thermal desorption spectroscopy (TDS)"
> It's hard to understand why people care so much about someone's personal political opinions.
People care because he has power and money, which he uses to shape the world in alignment with those political opinions.
The same is true of anyone else with power - Xi, Putin, Gates, Thiel, Zuck, and the countless others with influence over business and government. A lot of money is spent to analyze and alter their political opinions.
What's hard for me to understand is why this isn't plainly obvious to you.
We've had decades of absolute liberal control of tech companies but you don't see threads like this every time Google announces something. Some 25% of tech is conservative, it shouldn't be that weird that a few of the billionaires are too.
Both. A single person can be great in some areas and a malicious loon in others. In fact, great success in one field can provide the self-confidence and capital to be a catastrophe in others.
But also keep in mind that Musk isn't personally designing and building everything SpaceX does. The staff at SpaceX deserve more credit than they get, especially Gwynne Shotwell.
It's become an absolute meme on the left-leaning internet to say SpaceX isn't Elon and Shotwell is doing all the work. You can't go to a thread on this site or reddit etc without it being brought up.
Really I am pretty sure it is just coping to deal with the uncomfortable fact that Elon (bad guy) is doing something great and clearly is skilled. Ask anyone at SpaceX or Shotwell herself and they will all say Elon is very important to its success.
Everyone who cares about SpaceX, and not Elon-hating, know Shotwell's name. My nine year old does, and he knows that Gwynne got into engineering because she liked another engineer's shoes!
That is true, but it’s also true of Blue Origin who are far behind spacex in so far as flying real hardware. The difference is Musk maniacal zeal and yes leadership. I’m frustrated with Musks politics too, but his drive can’t be denied.
But why are you frustrated with Musk’s politics? The fact that one of the smartest people chooses to demonstrate their view is very remarkable. It does warrant critical thinking and examination. After all he could have kept quiet and ponder to both parties equally.
I never knew the name Tim Cook before Steve Jobs died.
The general public does not know the layers of corporate staffing and their names. That doesn't mean they don't realize there are a lot of people at the company contributing. Nobody thinks Elon is in the back room doing drafting, and doing every job.
Yes. Musk is complicated person. Maybe that is what I was trying to ask. Does anybody have any credible insight into where is head is at. Is he turning into a wing nut, or is this all just a ploy to have more control over the government to further his goals of getting to Mars. Like if Trump wins, he can just phone him up and say, lets put a man on Mars.
SpaceX is not Musk. It may be executing his vision, but it's a team of thousands of skilled and hard-working people, all eager to work on a Sunday for a chance to pull something like this off.
But he’s the catalyst for it all.
There are other billionaires in this game too, why can’t they replicate his success? Why can’t they hire his engineers? Why can’t they deliver the results?
Twitter is not Musk. It may be executing his vision, but it's a team of thousands of skilled and hard-working people, all eager to work on a Sunday for a chance to create a propaganda arm of Trump party.
while a big chunk of the world is still under the influence of religion its been a while that the west worst extremism is not religious. you can turn on any mass media and then you will notice another kind of extremism. this is musk point and he is right about it. I can’t fathom how anyone educated cannot see it. It has to be political bias and dishonesty. be cartesian if you are an engineer.
I give you dick cheney and the biden admin those are the ones that waged wars. trump for all his mandate did nothing but de-escalate conflicts. facts again.
You can just list wars and blame anybody now, I guess. If you are just going to make things up, then anybody can do that.
Trump Started lebanon, palestine, ukraine, you are welcome.
See how easy it is.
De-escalate? Think you are forgetting Trump fired missiles into Iran. And they in turn Fired missiles that hit a US Base, and Trump was like "YOLO, JK, just a little fun and games. Didn't think you'd take that seriously".
Musk is just a front man. He's just an actor like Trump. God knows who is behind them. Banks, "The Matrix" , can anyone fill it in ? The front men are certainly just reading scripts, it is obvious.
Where did this meme come from? I’ve seen it twice in 2 days and it’s categorically false. Has the left wing echo chamber really brainwashed itself into believing Musk purchased all his successes and deserves no credit?
Even the “he bought Tesla” meme is lame. He invested in a tiny electric car startup and built it into the massive success it currently is.
